obviously there was the evil of jim crow in well understand that the jesse owens was an american hero in 1932 or 36, i don't remember which olympics it was and to great chagrin it was a black runner the beat all of this aria and runners. people don't know that though do they? >> guest: they don't and he quite a bit of time writing about this and what was going on at the end of through reconstruction of jim crow area and before the modern-day civil rights movement. he talks about the progress it was being made and it was remarkable the progress. he saw the income gap is closing and the poverty rates for example in america for went up 40 percentage points. that was before the sub rights act and before the voting rights act. you had middle-class professions social workers and teachers doctors lawyers and the number quadrupled between 1930 and 1970. and you are right it was not discussed to the extent that it should be and i think that's because it really interferes with the prevailing narrative which is that these outcomes we see today among blacks in the legacy of jim crow coupon out th

in busting jim crow. to the extent that the government tried to play a positive role, affirmative action and quotas and so on, it had a deleterious effect. you can chart the rise of the welfare state with the rise of the black community. so yes, the leave us alone strategy i think was the better strategy and there are blacks at the time who said so. that's your frederick douglass is andyour booker t. washington's that was their attitude . >> so with regard to no committee is it probably as true as it is with regard to black americans ? ronald reagan's famous statement the government is not the solution, if the problem . >> yes, i think so and that was sort of, thomas started out as a marxist. he started out thinking the government did have a positive role to play and through his 20s he remained a marxist even after being economics under milton friedman at the university of chicago he was still a marxist and he says what changed his mind was working in the government and the department of labor at one time

before the civil war there weren't a lot but really in the 1880s and kind of in the kickoff of the jim crow era and other for other political reasons there was frequent filibustering so there is a connection between the filibuster jim crow slavery in the civil war. there's there were some filibuster's before the civil war but really the anti lynching laws were things that were constantly filibuster, but they came through congress even to the late 1930s. so have filibuster rules been codified. well when you talk about the filibuster you're talking about three or four different things people think of the filibuster. they think of the movie mr. smith goes to washington, you know, jimmy stewart dramatic scene where he passes out doing the filibuster, but there's also other delaying tactics have been part of the tradition of of congress and the senate in particular roll calls for the quorum. multiple quorum calls. there was something called the disappearing corn where people actually would leave the building so they could delay votes. so they've been a lot of dilatory tactics, but the filibuster

there was a concerted effort to block some of the legislation especially that was related to the jim crow era a famous example in 1890 would have been the election or force bill and that election or force bill would allowed federal troops to monitor elections to make sure black voters could vote and it was really the southern block of the senate that blocked that with some several allies and it was a very effective tactic they could essentially run the clock out. toward the end of a short-term of congress and do differentilatory tactics to the block legislation where there was a 50% there are enough people in the house. it's the senate to approve it, but they could not get past a filibuster. what are some of the arguments for and against the filibuster as it currently exists? i think when you talk about the filibuster's currently exist, you're really talking about cloture which is kind of a different. idea cloture is the requirement for 60 people 60 senators to agree to move on to a floor vote actually a motion to consider and then a floor about the filibuster is more the classic extended

as a black woman, i would characterize it as a jim crow 2.0. what harms prison gerrymandering close to black voters? >> thank you so much, congresswoman bush. this is the place where voting discrimination intertwines with long-standing determination in our justice system that results in black and latino americans being disproportionately represented in prisons around the country. prisons are often located in in rural majority white areas. they very often are places where employment opportunities exist for correctional officers, white correctional officers. and when those who are incarcerated, disproportionately black and brown, are counted as part of those rural districts where they are not residents, that means that all of the collateral consequences of counting them there flow as well, including funding, plans around development and business, and jobs, and so on and so forth. when in fact they should be counted in their home community because most people who are in prison will go home. we know that when we count incentives into district, it l

we think about jim crow, even before jim crow laws this is where the ku klux klan came from.hey would chase blacks away from voting sites. sometimes shoot and kill them. blacks were lynched, you know? there were bodies of blacks found along roadways four years early in reconstruction. the reason for northern republicans finally giving up on trying to bring blacks more into national political fabric is they wanted to move on to other issues. for a couple of decades republicans kept trying to pass laws that would overrule what's southerners were doing with voting rights or whatever. it kept failing. it would either not pass or get filibustered. i think northern republicans finally got exhausted by the effort. i'm not sure that there is a lot that could've been done to avoid what happened with jim crow, short of an even heavier hand by the u.s. government. >> this is maybe a good time about vice presidential selection. given the rather disastrous choice, in retrospect, that abraham lincoln made in selecting andrew johnson as part of a ticket balancing act here, wanting to appeas

republicans in the south are enacting a modern day jim crow.versed the constitutional amendment who put a poll tax in and then arrested them with desantis' election police and brian kemp doing this in georgia and then they whine and cry because republicans who run the state of' lass can a had decided to input are being choice investigate and sarah palin lost and they are outraged. voter suppression. your thoughts? >>ia. ultimately it's a means justify the ends situation where republicans want to have it both -- both ways. they want to be able to complain about something that they seemingly works against them when in truth their messaging is just wrong, their social distances >> as the first alaskan native women, person, to be in the house of congress for two months, as ultimately as we revisit the same process, the same disenfranchisement process there, in alaska, primarily made of native people, oh can, in two months. ultimately, i want to speak upon georgia very quick. as a criminal defense attorney whenever you have a system a law, that invo

, but even before jim crow laws. and they this is where the ku klaus clan came from the m&a intimidated blacks into not voting. they would chase blacks away from voting sites and sometimes shoot and kill them and black swirl lynch. they you know, there were bodies of blackstone, you know along roadways for years in early and reconstruction. and and the reason that northern republicans, finally gave up on trying to bring blacks more into the you know, national political fabric and i think they they get excited. they want to move on to other issues. i mean for a couple of decades republicans kept trying to pass laws that would you know, sort of overrule with southerners were doing you know in voting rights or whatever and they kept they kept failing it either didn't pastor could filibustered. and i think northern republicans finally just get exhausted by the effort. so i'm not sure that. there's a lot that could have been done to avoid what happened with jim crow short of. just there and even heavier hand the us govern

the solution in the south was a system of jim crow laws.or south, can unify around segregation as a way to keep society and social order. the way in which this culture became within the first half century after the war an american north/south reunion without racial justice left a deep set of legacies we are of course still struggling with, and every time we think we have so much of this put aside, we suddenly are reminded that we don't. the only way today we'll see a new more inclusive reunion of americans is if there is a coalition of interest that stops looking only at their own individual interests and sees themselves in these four or five issues and sees themselves in other people. okay. >> we're just going to record this. and then if you could change the frame too. there you go. if i were going to make a movie about you, what do you want me to make sure that i include? >> i want you to show, like, the great things that i'm capable of. yeah, i'm -- if i say something, do say so myself, i'm a great football player, but almost -- also sma

german jurists did study our jim crow laws to fashion the first discriminatory laws against jews, and in fact, they were less harsh than ours. after that happens, there's a hue and cry about many of the things he's done and protests against them, and you know, the invariable answer to our protests against the treatment of the jews in the developing 30s is mississippi, the scholar peter hay says in our film, you considered these people inferior and you passed laws to limit their a abilities. we consider these people inferior, and that's all we're doing, how dare you talk to us about it. >> public opinion in the united states was often not in favor of helping the jewish people and, you know, the actions of the united states federal government led by president franklin delano roosevelt often reflected that public and popular opinion, so by the end of the holocaust, the united states had admitted 225,000 jewish refugees, more than any other sovereign token. but still only a fraction of the 6 million jews who perished, why did the u.s. not do more, ken? >> there's rampant anti-semitism in

that's thurgood marshall who has a battle to eradicate jim crow segregation. winning lawyer in the brown the case. and had a whole series of supreme court decisions leading up to that. brown the board was very much a culmination of a longer legal process in which jim crow segregation was eliminated. he was also a person he not only argued in the supreme court, he argued in lots of little country courthouses all through the south. often doing criminal cases trying to get innocent black attendants exonerated. even though that juries were all white and not inclined to do so. he pretty did everything there is to do in the law to achieve racial equality. and in my year with him on the court is among many other accomplishments best storyteller i ever met in my life. he spent at the naacp defensive fund doing this kind of work. it really was he would make you laugh, he would make you cry. he would do impressions of people. he would do thousands of voices. he had 1000 facial expressions. it was quite an extraordinary thing. but you could not come away without having a

you know, he calls our criminal justice system racist.t and new jim crow and ethe new jim crow even butf criticized berniore sanders, bun for all the wrong reasons. he said in new hampshirehire, 2. if we're waiting for to twenty four days to get rid of ga gs vehicles, we're doing wans something terribly wrong. so he wantdy ts everybody to ges electric car . the cost 20% more than a gass powere powered car that takes a lot of mining with a lot of equipmentln that uses a lot of diesel. battr electric grid,, those batteries for those electric vehicles are charged by an electric grid, 90% of whichh is is fueled by fossil fuels. >> yeah, that's pretty, prettyil simple and pretty direct. shor ant, by the way, the rawcomplety materials are completely ntrolledcontrolled b by the chid the cobalt, the lithium. problem herel with tim ryan is it's like you going to the left of bernie sanders actually saying we need to ban gas powered cars. it's going toyo destro the oonoo economy. stf auto workers. we need somebody like me to stand up for sean, jd vance, .com. all right, jd , your seatcom. is criti

signaled supports that he wants to ban fracking and he called the criminal justice system the new jim crowhe wants more restrictions on your second amendment rights and he also pushed the russia collusion hoax and wanted to impeach donald trump over the mueller investigation and he voted for biden's latest tax and spend scheme to weaponnize the irs. he supports taxpayer funded on demand late term abortion and the list goes on. let's be clear. he is the furthest thing from a moderate and wrong for ohio and out of touch with the people in ohio. joining us now, republican ohio senate candidate jd vance. your race is critical. this is a must hold seat for republicans. looking at his record, 100% of the time pretty much tells the whole story, jd. >> yeah, it really does, sean. this is a guy who when he runs his scripted tv commercials says he wants to appeal to trump voters and the entire state of ohio and yet when he's unscripted, sean, he's saying we need to confront and kill the entire movement. a majority of the people of ohio of course voted for that movement in 2016 and 2020 so he's a com

board was the culmination of a longer legal process in which jim crow segregation was eliminated. he was also a person, he not only argued in the supreme court, he argued in lots of little country courthouses all through the south. often doing criminal cases, often trying to get innocent black defendants exonerated even though the juries were all white and were not inclined to do so. he pretty much did everything there is to do in the law to achieve racial equality and in my year with him on the court, among his many other accomplishments he was the best storyteller i have ever met in my life. he would tell stories about his boyhood, about his college days, law school days and then the days he spent at the naacp legal defense funds doing this kind of work. and it really was a kind of he would make you laugh, he would make you cry, he would do impressions of people. he had 1000 voices. he had 1000 facial expressions. it was quite an extraordinary thing. you couldn't come away without knowing that it all had a very serious purpose and the serious purpose was that he cared as much as

recall that in america for a long time the laws of jim crow were in effect, which infringed on the rights of african americans and made them second -class people. in these laws, the requirements of the ku klux klan far-right organization were actually enshrined, defending the superiority of whites, including segregation in education, blacks were often not allowed to study with whites. it was a very big problem, because there were a little less than white schools, there were a little more academic schools. and sometimes, in order to go to school , in general, african americans had to overcome very long distances, but this is also tens of kilometers 10 and 20. yes. and sometimes even more, and in connection with this a in the usa in 1954, he started a few years earlier, but, but ended a very long trial to know how the case a brow. against the committee on education, and in fact, the us supreme court overturned the decision of the kansas court regarding separate education. yes, from this moment begins the process of 10 aggregation, that is, the joint training of whites and blacks. as you und

as you heard, the german jurist studied are jim crow -- the first discriminatory laws against the jewsy in protests, their response to us was mississippi. you say that these people are inferior to you, while we consider the jews and figure to us. how dare you say this? what happens is that the combination of that racism, eugenics and antisemitism, that is prevalent in the great depression, the violent rise of at the darian sentiment, helps to create a situation where americans are unwilling, and i mean all of us, not just the administration, not just the congress, but americans, us. it could also be u.s. and the holocaust, but us and the holocaust are unwilling to let a fraction of the people that we could have and more importantly, should have let in. we get an f on this great. >> miss novak, the number of anti-and -- antisemitic incidents around the world dramatically increased last year. a study from tel aviv university has found naming the united states, canada, the united kingdom, germany and australia as countries where there was a sharp rise. in america alone, anti-defamation le

justice than ever, but that's thurgood marshall who of course, led the legal battle to eradicate jim crow in the south. was the winning lawyer in the brown v board case and had a whole series of supreme court decisions leading up to that. i mean, brown v board was very much the culmination of a much -- of a longer and legal process in which jim crow segregation was eliminated and you know, he was also a person, he not only argued in the supreme court, he argued in lots of little country courthouses, or through the south. often doing criminal cases and often trying to get innocent black defendants exonerated even though their juries were all white and weren't inclined to do so. he did everything in the law to achieve racial equality. in my year with him on the court, he was-- he was-- among his many accomplishments, he was the best story teller i've ever met in my life and he would tell stories about his boyhood, about his college days, law school days and then the days he spent at naacp legal defense fund doing this kind of work and it really was kind of-- he would make you laugh, he woul

organized by the black population in detroit on the days of which we will speak in the united states, jim crowre still in force, which were enshrined at the legislative level racial segregation. in the 20th century, segregation problems became more and more acute, and not only in the context of the detroit uprising of 67 or, uh, the famous story of the nine from little rock. this, in principle, was the understanding that it is impossible to ensure separate e, coexistence, and different groups of the american population in a different set of rights. that is, if we compare what rights, again , the anglo-saxon population and the african-american population had, of course, they lived in two parallel realities. and just the same in the fifties and sixties in the context of the struggle of martin luther king, this situation began to change towards equalization. you need to understand that in the 930s, and in detroit there was one of the largest e-cells of the doll clans, for example, in the state of michigan, and according to the data of the second doll clan there were about 80,000 classes, of which

that joe biden gave when he compared changes that republicans made in voting laws in georgia to jim crow and violent enforced segregation of another era. are you comfortable with that kind of rhetoric? >> you know what? a friend of mine says we've been treating our democracy for a long time in this country as if it would tolerate limitless abuse without breaking. and when you add up the 19 states and their vote suppression laws recently and you look at that alongside the amount of money so much of it dark, which has been permitted into our politics and policymaking, the radical purging rules, the ways in which we have distorted the democratic process as a means to achieve better lives for citizens, it is deeply worrisome and it'sn worseecsef eio deniers. eb the president's speech. anyone of us would choose different words but i think it is great that the president calls things what they are. and also reminds us that the purpose of democracy is a means to assure liberty and justice for all. we have to care about that process and that purpose for those reasons. >> governor, in our focus gr

meeting of your opinion, one of these set off of facebook is it all fair to say that there is no jim crowat is not left alone. >> i don't think it's a theoretical question but something that could be answered empirically by looking at trends among but then excuse my french don't give a damn what is happening to black people. but if you look at the progress being made but then in the 19 forties that fell by 18 percent in the fifties it fell by another 21 percent all the while remaining on —- flat and this was remarkable because at a time that's why. >> but it worked well into the 1990s. i don't think that you watch. that was their attitude so with regard high is it introducing us that then he was still in existence and what changed his mind was working in the government. and the department of labor once lived. host: you mentioned studying under milton friedman did he have a big impact on him? >> yes. but then to talk to your peers in the academy the ten to explain your discipline to people who are not in the discipline. but then a lot of people are so disappointed they give up his fellow b

[applause] we need john fetterman in the -- to end the jim crow era filibuster. [applause] pennsylvania needs and deserves to democratic senators who will protect our values, voting rights, criminal justice, criminal justice reform, and civil rights. [applause] i know this room knows this, but everything is on the line. it is not a cliche, it is the truth. everything is on the line, from women and girls rights, like my three daughters in law, and my three granddaughters, no way will they become a second class citizen in this country. [applause] we need john fetterman there, and i will say joshua shapiro as governor. [applause] to protect our democracy, everything is on the line, when i had the chance to prosecute the former corrupt criminal president in the senate, how i wish -- [applause] how i wish -- [lock him up chant] how i wish that john fetterman was sitting in that audience of senators to have cast a vote. in conclusion, we need a senator for pennsylvania and from pennsylvania. [applause] help me say this, who do we need, fetterman. who do we need? [fette

throughout the country, north and south jim crow and segregation were ascendant. and even the first national parks in the south were open. and this is a slide from shenandoah with segregated facilities. and even the public in the final picture dedicating, the lincoln memorial had segregated seating. however, the assembly report was not entirely forgotten. its influence on national parks lived on through olmstead son and namesake who drafted key of the 1916 legislation creating the national parks national park service. the goals and purposes of national parks that olmstead jr famously described were based on many of the ideas his father had advocated 50 years earlier. so in conclusion, i ask why do we need to tell this story now. even in i believe it is to revisit our past with openness to new context and new information connecting earlier national parks to the legacy of emancipate asian and native american dispossession will hopefully help efforts to advance diversity, equity and inclusion in our national today. and finally, we believe that the 1865 yosemite repor

born at the height of jim crow, goes to college, beces a high school teacher.n the second world war begins. he joins the armed services as a seabee, using his knowledge of construction because he taught industrial arts in high school. after the war, he goes back to school and gets a master's of social work and then makes his way out to california. pufoy: i left ohio and came to california because i'd been in the military service in california, and i dreamed of returning because it was very pleasant. lewis: he's in california as a social worker and one day gets up from his desk, walks out the door, and goes and enrollsn chouinard art school, which later becomes cal arts. purifoy: so just out of the clear blue i said, "i think i want to go to art school." i was considered the first full-time black student. i had a studio clean enough to eat off the table. i had a beret, and i ate cheese and drank wine, but i wasn't an artist yet until watts. that made me an artist. lewis: noah was definitely intellectual. he had the background in social work, he has the arts trai

that joe biden gave when he compared changes that republicans made in voting laws in georgia to jim crowgregation of another era. are you comfortable with that kind of rhetoric? >> you know what? a friend of mine says we've been treating our democracy for a long time in this country

this makes jim crow look like jim eagle. we can see each other as neighbors and treat each other with dignity and respect. what a stupid son of a -- join the forces and stop the shouting and lower the temperature. there are thousands of people in america going through that. these republicans ripped that out of the bill. we are coming back. we must end in uncivil war that pits red against blue. trump and the extreme maga republicans made their choice to go backwards full of anger, violence, hate and division. . >> tammy: charlie, you watched a lot of presidency. we have been around for a lot of elections. a lot of t things that have been said by people all the time that we don't like. would you agree this is unprecedented and strikes me as almost hoping someone will tip over and something will start? a spark will be lit. your take on this? >> well, first of all the speech, i have never seen such an angry, rancid speech in which a president attacks the voters he supposedly works for. never seen anything like it. it's senseless

people who were slavers or supported the confederacy or supported school segregation or in favor of jim crow. their names are emblazoned across the buildings and museums and monuments all across places like new orleans and places throughout not only the south, but across the country. host: so, in a case like that, should the name of the university be changed? mr. smith: i think it is a case-by-case basis. i think each university, each city, each town, each community has a responsibility to grapple with the competing legacies that exist within any statue or name that exists. i will not sit here and pretend it is an easy answer. we take down all the statues of jefferson or we take down all the statues -- i think there are different gradations. for me, confederate iconography and names are the low hanging fruit of this debate. there is no reason at all that a confederate statues, a statue of someone who supported a war that was explicitly predicated on expanding and maintaining the institution of slavery -- and there's analyst evidence that they wrote, the state and individuals responsible for

we are facing attack when the right to vote not seen since the jim crow era. and the question is what we do now? sam and i wrote this book to answer that question, in particular to you, a sense of our history. to you a sense of the nature. of the problem that we confront today. and also to provide some concrete solutions about what do we do next to provide that larger context for the brutal bloody and at times hopeful history of, the fight to voting rights. we talked about the history to show what it looks like to wage a successful battle for democracy. we talk about certain individuals and elevate them. bring them back into the consciousness of in this country and propose a policy playbook for how can reverse the tides of voter suppression and renew the american experiment. we have specific ideas about things we ought to consider. and a lot people have reacted and said, well, you know, you're talking about things sound too expansive too big for this nation to do. but that's what defines this country at its best when we do big. the great society that was big,

yes this is literally jim crow.register to vote challenging them. and then making them justify being on the polls. georgia law allows the state, as you said, to take over elections. horrific violence in competent amount of clerks and they don't love ending of the mass challenges and the challenges along the lines of election day. they will face a state takeover. one more bit. the challenge is bringing the total, this election cycle to about 65,000. do largely to a 21 overhaul of georgia voting laws and acted in response to unfounded allegation of fraud. in 2020. the law effectively encourage these mass challenges -- but this sounds like more than the margin by with kemp won by as governor. i wonder, are you concerned that because these challenges are now illegal. perfectly legal under this law. that, essentially, camp is going to be -- because the trump allies. that would be able to use subtraction to win. >> right. we are looking at the state, in georgia, we're in 2020 that margin was 11,000 to 780 votes. all of th

and yet, this is literally jim crow.ster to vote, challenging them, and making them justify being on the roles. let me read from this story. georgia law allows the state to take over elections boards. many clerks are worried if they don't do a quick vetting or the challenges lead to longer lines, they will face a state takeover. one more bid. the gwinnett challenges bring the total this election cycle to about 65,000 due largely to a 2021 overhaul of georgia voting laws enacted in response to unfounded allegations of widespread fraud in 2020. the law effectively encouraged these mass challenges, as you just said. this sounds like more than the margin by which kemp won as governor. and so, i wonder, are you concerned that because these mass challenges are now perfectly legal under this law, that essentially, kemp is going to be -- because of trump allies, they're going to be able to use subtraction to win? and that includes herschel walker. >> right. we're looking at a state where in 2020 the margin was 11,780 votes. when

that we're teaching an honest history about the holocaust, or we're teaching about slavery or the jim crow laws. it has a chilling effect. it's making people question, can i teach this or not? in 2021, the de santis administration also banned the teaching of the 1619 project, which stretches the role of slavery in shaping us history. a forbid critical race theory, legal understanding of systemic racism from being taught in public schools. what we've been seeing in general in our public schools is this idea of maybe not teach all of our history whitewash our history opponents of the parental rights in education. those so called don't say gabriel were accused of setting kids up for sexual abuse and sexual deviancy were accused of being rumors. teacher are not groomers. i heard some crazy things that i won't even repeat here. and when a teacher is threatened because they are part of the l g b t community is crazy. it just, it, it's anti american. quite honestly, the woke is the new religion of the left. and we're going to lead the charge here in florida. but we need people all over the countr