jim crow, bad.o talk about recent practices like redlining neighborhoods, not allowing black people to move into those neighborhoods. black people being basically cheated in their mortgages and having their houses taken away from them. >> well, we have two problems. any time you say the word "reparation," people think you're talking about people who are long dead. in fact, there are people who are alive who have been disadvantaged and injured. the damage doesn't go away when we don't talk about it. new things happen that are compiled on top of that damage, so segregation in a city in chicago, a northern peoples state bank don't think about northern cities as being segregated, but segregation in a community like chicago creates a community of people who are ripe to be plundered when people are peddling bad loans. >> you say from colonial days up until now, a great deal of wealth in the united states has been built on the backs of disadvantaged and black people. >> and not even our wealth as a country

i had an ancestor who was in the texas legislature in 1882 passing those jim crow laws.so they were part of a systematic campaign if he willed to make sure that your ancestors did not have access to education, to capital, to business and job opportunities and that continued up until the 60s. and your -- worked for one of my cousins until his death in 197 1970 -- and by all accounts the two old men love each other but they weren't equal. >> host: right. >> guest: so that's kind of what i want. if we want reconciliation and we want an end to our racial problems the first thing we have to do as americans is happened on this conversation about what really happened over the last 150 years. >> host: do you think that's possible? do you think americans can move past the color of one's skin? it's been 150 years since the end of slavery but it's only been just over 50 years since the civil rights movement? >> guest: yeah. >> host: so do you think we can? >> guest: i think we can. i think we can. the inspiration for the 8-year-old chris to write this book someday was sitting in a

just how democratic was the jim crowe south?his, in 1936, fdr won 19 99% of the vote in south carolina, 99%. you get 97% in mississippi. 87 in georgia. essentially there was no republican party in the south back then, but the civil rights movement changed everything. blacks couldn't vote in the south, but they could in the north. with their white allies up there, they turned on the pressure of the northern democratic leaders to stop appeasing the jim crowe democrats. there was a walkout at the 1948 democratic convention when northern democrats led by hubert humphrey pushed through a civil rights plank. in 1964, lbj made the ultimate choice, he had been pro jim crowe but his heart was somewhere else, when fate made him president, lbj made civil rights his priority, he did what no president had been willing or able to do. he broke the southern filibuster, got the vote through and signed it 50 years ago today, that shift that he predicted took shape right away. the republicans picked barry goldwater who joined the southern democrat

you know, you said jim crow. i say it's james crow jr., es zire.modern version of what jim crow did. they're trying to, in many ways, sanitize it and make it look better. but i don't care how you try and polish it up, it is the same voter suppression scheme and it must be resisted. >> nothing rocks the vote like trying to block the vote. reverend al sharpton, thank you, as always, for your time and thoughts. it's great to see you. >> good to see you. >> do not forget to catch rev tonight and every week day night on "politics nation" 6:00 p.m. eastern right here, of course, on msnbc. >>> coming up, some republicans, some republicans, this is a hard sentence to read, actually miss george w. bush. and it is not because of his paintings. details on that are straight ahead. [ female announcer ] there's a gap out there. that's keeping you from the healthcare you deserve. at humana, we believe if healthcare changes, if it becomes simpler... if frustration and paperwork decrease... if grandparents get to live at home instead of in a home... the gap begins

this is how they develop their own independent community outside of jim crow he said we arthat wearenever going to grog here. you want to build your house and your church and they work so hard to be self-sufficient. your family always valued education so highly they educate children and that helped them to go to the communities that were so self-sufficient and unrecognized and so research in the freedom colony's begin in texas in the 1970s. so i thought that was a part of texas history that i was unfamiliar with and was one of the most exciting topics. so i'm pleased to hear that you got something from it. >> postcoital would you like the readers to take away from tomlinson alexa >> guest: i think that it is a larger issue than just our families. i mean, our families are a metaphor for black and white america. and the details are only interesting to an outsider, someone that isn't a relative who has a metaphor for a larger issue. so when people -- one of the things that really shocks feel is when i say he was a cotton picking the sharecropper it wasn't that long ago it's one generati

the southern baptist convention justified slavery and later jim crow and segregation on religious grounds. >> somebody will say that's against my religious beliefs, or cases involving gays and lesbians or cases involving people from different foreign origins. >> republicans want to do everything they can to have the long hand of government and now the long hand of business reach into a woman's body and make health care decisions for her. >> reach inside a woman's body. wow. that's pretty graphic. dana, i have a theory. i think they are excited about this. i think the left is secretly deep, deep down these radical feminists are jumping up down and this raulg even though they are delighted to mischaracterize because it gives them something not to talk about like the irs or va scandal it gives them something to now lie about. >> right. heads they win, tails they win. they always win. win-win. if they had prevailed in the court they would have tried to run with that ball. losing in the court politically for them gives them a lot more reason to turn out the vote in november and then going into

prevented the blacks from voting and helped usher the end of reconstruction and the beginning of jim crow. that kind of bald-faced pride in ethnic violence, that was really surprising. i also didn't understand the power of the klu klux klan in texas politics in the 1920s, or that my great-grandfather was involved in that political movement. so, i wasn't really surprised to find out that they were involved in these things, but the details were what were shocking. >> host: right. so, we've been knowing each other for a little bit now, and i know you not to be a racist person at all. and so how comfortable were you learning all this.your ancestors? had to make you feel uncomfortable. >> i.e.d. it did. i didn't make my first trip to tomlinson hill until 2007 so this is a place you grew up on, a place you spent your childhood, and i'd never seen it. by the time i was 47 years old. and so i'm standing on the hill, which my family donated 17 acres to the confederate veterans association, and they constructed a reunion ground, and it is still standing today, and now your family still holds reunio

in fact, he was the first presidential candidate to do this, to go into the south and oppose the jim crow laws. he talked about equal pay for equal work. he talked about it was right to have the lunch program in the schools. so he talked about things that were way ahead of the thinking of the majority of the people in the united states. he did not get many votes in the 1948 election. he lived out the last years of his life in the state of new york. he acquired lowing lou gehrig's disease. this is just a testament to the scientist he was his whole life. when he found out the diagnose, he called the center for disease control and said you can use me to figure out this horrible disease. you can take tissue samples and do whatever you need to do. he lived less than two years after the diagnosis and a few months before he died when he could still speak he was asked by a reporter, what do you think is the greatest problem facing the united states? he said people moving away from the land. because it is happening soon there will be problems with the economy, environment, and with communities. >>

explicitly clear by contrast in the ideals of the declaration of independence with the reality of jim crow laws around the country. now in our generation of americans. has been called on to continue. the un ending the search for justice within our own ball. we believe that all men are created equal. yet many are denied equal treatment. we believe that all man have certain unalienable rights. that many americans do not enjoy those rights. we believe that all man are entitled to the blessings of liberty. yet millions are being deprived of those lessons. not because of their own failures. but because. the color of their skin acknowledging that that discrimination was deeply rooted in american history and society johnson then or might it is audience that that's no excuse for inaction segregation was an affront to everything the locker sees stands for and therefore needed to be destroyed for good. the reasons are deeply embedded in history and tradition and the nature of man. we can understand without rancor or hate. how this all happened. but it cannot contain. our constitution the foundation

born in new orleans, during the depths of the great depression and jim crow segregation, ambassador young accepted responsibility of service at a young age. in 1960, after receiving his graduate degree at howard university and his divinity degree from hartsfield, he joined the southern christian leadership conference, the civil rights organization led by dr. king. he was soon named the director of citizenship school program where he employed mahatma gandhi's concept of nonviolent resistance as an organizing strategy and tactics for social change. later, after becoming the executive director of the sclc, he became one of dr. king's most trusted advisers and confidants. he is one of the principal strategists during the civil rights campaigns, in birmingham, selma, and atlanta. it was those campaigns, along with other critical events, that led to the passage of the civil rights act of 1964 and the voting rights act of 1965. even after being beaten and jailed for his participation, and witnessing the devastating assassination of dr. king in 1968, the ambassador's leadership and devotion to pu

it broke the back of jim crow.ws that allowed for separate but equal treatment and for people of color. whether we have spanned the racial divide and -- whether we live in a more just society, i think we certainly do. but there is always room, there is great disparity between the treatment of blacks and whites in the workforce, for instance. so there is certainly work to be done. but the civil rights act of 1964 was a great step in fulfilling the promise etched in our declaration of independence, that all men are created equal, for almost 200 years, that was a contradiction in the united states of america. >> fantastic pictures just there of lyndon johnson signing the act into law. but to address this issue raised in the piece we just ran that the right to freedom of expression actually protects white supremacists and fuels racism in a way, does that also need to be challenged now? or is that seen as sacrosanct in america? >> well, i think it is. that's what makes america the place that it is. we do guarantee the r

all out attack on the right to vote, and voter suppression, the worst that we with have seen since jim crow. he had a statement for al jazeera america, i could not help but think how many of our fore fathers fought, hoping we would never have to fight for those rights again. if it is our time to fight then sobeit, because what we are fighting for came through blood, and we with can't give up now. so strong words as they want the right to vote across all spectrums of life. and coming up, on al jazeera america. >> i have this story, it is my story. i stay on it. >> while most of the attention in iraq has been focused on sunni and muslims, christians are being effected as well, we are talking about members of a village caught in a cross fire. [ grunting ] i'm taking off, but, uh, don't worry. i'm gonna leave the tv on for you. and if anything happens, don't forget about the new xfinity my account app. you can troubleshoot technical issues here. if you make an appointment, you can check out the status here. you can pay the bill, too. but don't worry about that right now. okay. how do i look? ♪

attack on the right to vote and voter suppression, the worse we have seen in full measure since jim croweporter: so strong words, and he also went on to say . . . so dell, an emotional debate there as north carolina for the past decade or so has had some of the loosest, open voting right laws in the country, and now a reversal of time, and people want that to change. dell. >> robert ray thank you very much. >> iowa hit with terrible flooding, but the worst may be yet to come. stuart! stuart! stuart! stuart! ♪ check it out. this my account thing. we can tweet directly toa comcast expert for help. or we can select a time for them to call us back. the future, right? ♪ this doesn't do it for you? [ doorbell rings, dog barks ] oh, that's what blows your mind -- the advanced technology of a doorbell.. [ male announcer ] tweet an expert and schedule a callback from any device. introducing the xfinity my account app. ♪ >>> well as you can see, people in iowa dealing with major flooding. residents there putting up sandbags. a local company also helping out, donating 100 tons of the sand. some are

you have called this the worst voter suppression law since the days of jim crow. explain. >> no doubt. this is the worst, most egregious law that we've seen since jim crow to suppress and isolate the vote. this bill, house bill 4589, has more than 40 changes. not just voter i.d., 40 changes in the law. same-day registration, others as you have noted. this bill is trying to take away access to the polls that citizens have had. this is not blocking access. they're actually rolling back access. and we know in north carolina the federal government over the last 30 years has had to intervene through preclearance more than 60 times. this bill shows the nation what happens when you remove preclearance, what happens when the federal government no longer has preclearance. when this bill started out, it was 12 pages. after shelby, it was 57 pages. 57 pages where they identified the voters they want to suppress and conjured up these policies to go after those voters. i.e., young people, african-american, women, and the elderly. >> when you talk to republican legislators, tho

protecting the integrity of our elections to the use of voter ids, those who want to restore the jim crow laws. those that want to exercise their first amendment rights to religious liberties whether the hobby lobby or those that are said to be waging a war on women. so now we have this adulation as well and we cannot let their narrative when the day. and especially accepting this narrative for those who want to uphold the rule blog. >> what happens is we changed what is reality it's the only time that the associated press don't use the term illegal because they find it offensive. and there is a real reluctance on the part of others to frame what is going on at the border crisis. and there's a lot of impressionable people here that they maybe it is a fixation on the right or the tea partiers and maybe it's not so bad after all. maybe tens of thousands come here and there is no sense or signed we can get them back to where they came from, or for that matter how that works. so you have to wonder who is the crazy one. >> absolutely. we are dealing with is firsthand here in texas. and so what

army actually exported jim crow to the french army. they sat down with the french army and gave them a list of rules and said you have to help us out here. we don't want them coming home thinking they're entitled to be treated like human beings. can you treat them with shame and degradation the way we have. it was don't shake hands with them. don't praise them excessively, especially in the company of white soldiers. don't let them near white civilians. so the memorandum of keep them in their place. don't spoil them. >> i was busting his chops at the beginning of the conversation because it is fun to tease. >> partially he is paying me back for what mel brooks did to you last time. >> not at all. it is just fun to -- you can't tease mel brooks. he has these one liners, i would  brooks. i figure i would take it off on you. >> i get it from both angles. i have mel brooks the father, henry brooks the son. henry brooks just was going to be a noble american. he was going to be fdr. he did his rehearsal and then he went whoa! oh, my polio!

she took a stand against jim crow and a segregated south changing history with a little bit of gumbo.usan saulny takes us to new orleans. >> it was the best gumbo i ever had. >> so he picks up the hot sauce in the gumbo. i said, mr. obama, you don't put hot sauce in my gumbo. >> reporter: not everyone can tell barack obama how to enjoy his lunch. but when you're the queen of creole cuisine still cooking in the same new orleans restaurant you built in the 1940s, there are certain liberties. >> we had a fuss. >> reporter: leah chase may be the most important chef you've never heard of. she's fried chicken with julia child, judged gumbo on "top chef," fed prime ministers and presidents alike. ray charles even sang about her cooking. ♪ i went to dooky chase's to get something to eat ♪ >> reporter: in the '40s a and '50s, her dooky chase was the only upscale restaurant to serve notable african-americans, dizzy gillespie, ray charles. >> everybody. >> reporter: but chase would blaze a trail not just by bringing in big names, in the segregated '50s and '60s dooky chase was ground zero for bl

of the most pressing civil rights issues or time there is so gun control laws are just as bad as jim crow laws seriously. the bill of rights was even to be a numerated because the founding fathers saw them as natural born rights and no one could possibly take away luckily some of them saw the threat of future tyranny and thought it was wise to have some of those right now so just because someone makes a law that says you can't buy own or carry a weapon doesn't make it lawful jim crow laws were also passed in force and those were equally as unconstitutional to me right only someone shilling for the n.r.a. could say that preventing people from owning weapons of war is just as bad as racists and the very very ugly mac butner. the housing chairman of rowan county north carolina is facing calls to resign today in the wake of an uproar over a racially charged facebook post he made about moral monday protesters earlier this year over a link to an article about those protesters but their wrote gee they're all black i guess the white folks could not get off because they were too busy working to be

once you got rid of the in-your-face jim crowe system and we have a black president quote-unquote postacial. >> however that gain right there having a black president is a pretty major push. i think people would be saying women are now equal if hillary clinton had been elected president and the same thing with obama. you know, in other words there's no mountain we cannot climb, there's no place in the society we cannot get to. >> then other people would say that even though we have a black president there's still entrenched issues that we face that we have not gotten over yet. there are issues that need to be addressed across race and if we had hillary clinton as president, i would argue that would create another layer of problems, because they've made it when there are challenges that would exist. >> i think we are lightyears away and we have come a long way to earn our place in the boardrooms and jobs of any sortment and i disagr with this notion that individual voice dose not matter. i'm advocating individually becoming economically successful touch wood and hoping that that demonst

it is an all out attempt, we call it the worst attempt on voting rights since jim crow we've seen here in north carolina. we made a tremendous case. >> professor tribe you write that the supreme court's decision to curb certain sections of the voting rights act is part of the philosophy under chief justice john roberts. can you explain that? >> yes. chief justice roberts has expressed the view quite often that we are basically past the period of jim crow and race discrimination. we've actually gotten to the promised land as long as we pay no more attention to race. i think that's profoundly misguided. if he were right when you've got a case like this in north carolina and i very much agree with reverend barber's description, there is no possible way to understand what north carolina is doing except as an attempt to disenfranchise racial minorities, young people, very old people, people likely to vote democratic and even under the remaining sections of the voting rights act which was not totally invalidated thank goodness under those remaining sections this is a very simple, straight fo

there was a law professor that wrote the book that i talk about in my book called the new jim crow, where she is at pains really to ever bring up black crime statistics. she complains at length about black incarceration rates that doesn't want to talk about any of the behavior that leads to those higher black incarceration rates. as i pointed out earlier black incarceration rates, the black white gap in 1960 was narrower than it is today. it's wider now and obviously if you think there was or is a racist criminal justice system out there responding or responsible for these high black incarceration rates it had to be much more racist in 1960 then this today when the head of it is a black man eric holder who reports to another one, president obama. >> host: since you brought this up you are talking about george zimmerman and the acquittal. at the end of the day there's a young man who is dead who was wearing a hoodie. in your opinion was he racially profiled? >> guest: yes, i believe that he was viewed suspiciously because of the color of the skin of the way he was dressed. i don't have any

look, these people had a tremendous investment in what they believed was our way of life, which was jim crow, and the last thing they wanted to do was to give that up, and public accommodations was key to that, and so at every stage, they were not interested in compromising. they didn't want to see the south change, and they believed maybe accurately, maybe inaccurate, that this bill was directed to the old confederacy, and the rest of the country, it was not important, so the feelings on the part of the opponents of being beleaguered were, i mean, we were writing that, and that was very evident. would you agree? >> there were a few bill william fulbright comes to mind. he refused to sign the southern manifes manifesto, but -- and he was a faint-hearted participant in the filibustering, and without his ever having said so, i think he had serious, grave misgivings about the maintaining the segregated country. >> that was an exception, yeah. >> yeah. >> question here. >> how did foreign leaders respond to the process? comment publicly, privately, do you know? >> did you hear from foreign leade

racial profiling without talking about black criminality there's a book i write about of the new jim crow to bring up the black crime statistics she complained that length about the black incarceration rates that leads to those higher black incarceration rates and as i pointed out earlier the black incarceration rates into the gap in 1960 was narrow an dam it is today. it's whiter now, and obviously. if you think that there was or is a racist criminal justice system out there response responding or responsible it have to be much more racist back in 1960 dan is today when eric holder who reports to another one, president obama. >> host: tour talking about george zimmerman and the acquittal and talking about racial profiling. at the end of the day there's a young man that his dad more a hoodie. was he racially profiled? >> guest: yes i believe he was because of the color of his skin and the way that he was dressed. i don't have any doubt about that really. >> host: if i have a martha's vineyard hoodie and i choose to wear my hoodie and have my hair pulled back and no makeup, you don't know

. >> jim crowe in the state made reform.d political, go the political route as far as lit take you. you should not rule out going to the courts. >> arne duncan, secretary of education in the democratic administration, praised the ruling and said that this should be something that the -- the state officials take into consideration and think about and do something about. state government run by democrats in california and the unions are appealing the. >> there is a rule split in the democratic party. they were being led by robert gibbs, president obama's former press secretary. there is a split in that party. i think what's important is ultimately for this mistake it can't go through the courts. it has to be changed through the political process. it will be appealed and making it over -- may get overturned it is a judge going too far. you have to change the state legislatures and change these laws. >> i tell you what, even if -- it loses on appeal, this case in california or the one in new york or others that are going to be b

come from the same place and follow them from slavery through the civil war and reconstruction and jim crow and the civil rights movement up until today and compare and contrast. >> chris tomlinson on his family slaveowning history and how the legacy of slavery still affects american society. he talks with the brother of nfl running back tomlinson about their lineage as former slaves from the hills. tonight on "after words." >> starting now on booktv, a retired pilot talks about the history of combat aviation in the restive south writer pilots have changed the way we fight wars. this is about 45 minutes. >> i have been happily a civilian now for six years, i think and dan is fine. thank you for coming out. this is a nice surprise as i was gone all week and it's good to be back in colorado. and it's a relief after some of the other places that i get to go. i am pretty informal with these things and what i will do for those of you who may not be acquainted with this book is talk a little bit about it and i always find that most people have a lot more questions than i would like to talk. so we

in fact, he was the first presidential candidate to do this, to go into the south and oppose the jim crow laws. he talked about equal pay for equal work. he talked about that it was right to have the lunch program in the schools. he talked about things that were way ahead of the thinking of the majority of the people in the united states. he did not get many votes in the 1948 election. he lived out of last years of his life in the state of new york. he acquired lou gherig's disease. this is just a testament to the scientists he was his whole life. when he found out the diagnosis, he called the centers for disease control and said, you can use me to figure out this horrible disease. you can take tissue samples. you can do whatever you need to do. that was the scientist in him. he lived about less than two years after the diagnosis. a few months before he died, when he could still speak, he was asked by a reporter what do you think is the greatest problem facing the united states. he said, people moving away from the land. because it's happening soon, there will be problems with the economy

it's a story of a black youngster who grew up in the jim crow south, five months of his adult life toriers of discrimination and emerge at the national level as a political pragmatist and a consensus builder. when i decided to write this memoir i sought the help of my longtime friend and confidant philip g. gross junior. phil was a speechwriter for governors robert e. mcnair and john c. west. and he wrote books on both of them. phil's untimely death about two-thirds of the way through my practice gave me great cause in more ways than one. we spent many hours discussing our mutual backgrounds, common heritage and different cultures. he was a tremendous help in style and perspective. but from the very beginning i reserved unto myself all the substance and context. i miss him dearly. i have always been frustrated by those who explain questionable actions towards me and those who look like me by proclaiming themselves to be southerners, but moderate or conservatives. phil and i share a low tolerance for such behavior and for years i told him that if i ever wrote the memoir he always promi

unemployment among young blacks, nobel prize-winning economists label the minimum wage laws as the new jim crowis is an ellis ration of how the disadvantage which in the u.s. at that time, i've penalized by the minimum wage. when i same penalize, note that they aren't employed so they go from low-wage is to know wages. would we like them to have good wages? certainly but it is better to have low wages the no wages at all. there is a lot of knowledge about minimum-wages. before apartheid ended in south africa minimum-wages were used for jobs for white people because it was well known if the wage was high, then employers didn't have to choose between their prejudice and their pocketbooks. if a black worker was willing to work for less than whites he would get the job of the minimum wage was high enough that he didn't have to make that choice, then the blacks were penalized. another thing that happens with minimum-wages is it kills on the job training. i remember when i was in michigan state i was working the laboratory and i was being paid about half the minimum wage because at that time the job

raise in georgia of the jim crow's south, the fifth child of 10 growing up in the depression years, aliceot away. there was no track for black girls in alabama in those days. alice was born to run, and she did - faster than the girls and any of the boys. barefoot on the dirt country roads, she didn't just run faster, she thought bigger. guided by her own ingenuity, born of necessity. she made her own crossbar of sticks and rags to practice the high jump. at maddison high the boys coach trained her in the 50 meter dash and the high jump too. she face said a tougher hurdle at home. a disapproving daddy. he once told her "bare feet shouldn't fly, long legs shouldn't spin, braids shouldn't flap in the wind. sit on the porch and be a lady." in time she leaped over his disapproval. winning an amateur championship at 16, and jumping into education at university. she qualified for the 1940, '44 and "48 olympic games. with the outbreak of the war, was only able to compete in london in 1948. she broke through more barriers there. a leap of 5, 6 not only broke the record of the day, but making her t

who come from the same place and follow them from slavery through the civil war, reconstruction, jim crow, civil rights, up until today. and compare and contrast. >> chris tomlinson on his family's slave owning history in texas and how the legacy affects society. he spoke with the brother of living in thomason about their family's lineage. tonight at 10:00 eastern. week, the senate veterans affairs committee held a confirmation hearing for robert mcdonald to be the next secretary at the department of veterans affairs. he answered questions from senators about why he wants the job. >> you don't need this job. in the midst of all of these problems, in the midst of partisanship why do you want this job? >> it is a question we have talked a lot about. i think i can make a difference. i think that my entire career, whether it was starting at west point or being in the 82nd airborne division one of the most advised -- it has paired me for this task. i think there is no higher calling. this is an opportunity for me to make it and in the lives of veterans. if not me, who? that is just some of the

who come from the same place and follow them from slavery through the civil war reconstruction, jim crowe, the civil rights movement up until today and compare and contrast. >> chris tomlinson on his family's slave owning history and how the legacy of slavery still affects american society. he talked with the brother of an nfl former running back out their lineage. surveillance transparency act night on cspan 2 after wards. >> providing live coverage of the united states senate and every weekend booktv. the only television network devoted to non-fiction books and authors. brought to you as a public service by your local cable or satellite provider. watch us in hd, like us on facebook, and follow us on twitter. >> seung min kim, speaker john boehner's border group has announced their recommendations to deal with unaccompanied children at the border. >> they are wanting to revise the 2008 trafficking law that is coming under scrutiny. it would treat children who are coming from the central american countries, guatemala, honduras and el salvador would treat them like mexican children and mak