and descendent of the hughes brotherses who were two twin albino african-american men born in the jim crow south who became a side show attraction. saunders was a caretaker of willy hughes who was living. macy died not get to talk to hughes himself but she uncovered the history of two brothers and it's a heartbreaking, terrible story, and it's a story of the jim crow south. and of the way in which it treated individuals. the book is a feat of research. macy is dogged reporter and also story, telling. will not reveal what the actual story that she tells us, and here is macy herself to talk more about her book, "true vine." >> good morning. i'm alice carey. as a reviewer for book page ide read a lot of books and pun of my favorites is "truevine." took beg macy to 25 years to unearth the saga, requiring research to untang al history from truths and the result is deeply moving and end-end leslie compelling two brothers, a kidnapping and a mother's question e quest and a true story of the jim crow south. truevine has been short lift it ford the kirkus prize and long listed for the andrew -- her

and putting one jim crow and putting one jim crow in a federal institution.you guys in your '57 chevy i love those. he stops you in a car and he has the usual color mentality going. on black/white thing going on. and all of a sudden he says you're in the space program. and his patriotism kicks in. >> yes. >> tell me about that. >> well, i think that's the overall message of the story. when we put our differences aside as humans, we're able to move the human race forward. at the end of the day, we're all humans. a mind doesn't have a color. when it comes to calculating numbers, i don't care what color you are. i don't care who you sleep with at night. can you find the math? >> i love the score. this person that taraji is playing, everybody has to go to the bathroom and everybody knows the experience of having to go to the bathroom now. and then she has, it is like a bad dream. i have to go to a building where there's a colored women's bathroom. and you got this great music. tell me abo the music you put in there. >> man, the music was largely just led by -- >>

the scenes of putting up with jim crow and putting up with jim crow in a federal institution.was the cop who stopped you guys. i love '57 chevys. we always love them. stops you. he has the usual color mentality going on, black/white thing going on. all of a sudden he realizes you are in the space program. his patriotism kicks in. >> i think that's the overall message of this story. when we put our differences aside as humans, that's when we're able to move the human race forward. because at the end of the day, we're all humans. you know, a mind doesn't have a color. when it comes to calculating numbers, i don't care what color you are. i don't care who you sleep with at night. can you find the math? >> i love the score when this person that she's playing is very smart. everybody knows the experience of having to go to the bathroom now. then she has the color -- she has to go -- it's like a bad dream. have i i have to go where there's a colored woman's bathroom. tell me about the music. >> the music was largely just led by -- >> it's called running? >> yes, sir. that song was j

. >> there's obama saying america has not overcome the legacy of slavery and jim crow.eak with reverend darrell scott. nfl legend jim brown met with president-elect trump. president-elect trump says he would like his daughter ivanka to join him in washington. what role might she have? we'll check in with "fox & friends" co-host ainsley earhardt to interviewed ivanka multiple times during the campaign. she joins us with reaction straight ahead. the real gift isn't what's inside the box... it's what's inside the person who opens it. give ancestrydna, the simple dna test that can reveal their ethnic origins. order now at ancestrydna.com and save 10%. this artoo unit must be delivered to the rebellion. come on artoo! ♪ artoo! welcome to the rebellion. ♪ this is for you. duracell and children's miracle network hospitals are powering imaginations everywhere. same nose. same toughness. and since he's had moderate alzheimer's disease, the same never quit attitude. that's why i asked his doctor about once-a-day namzaric. (avo) namzaric is approved for moderate to severe alzheime

what she found, as she said, was a jim crow election.my: finally, we just have a minute, but what do you think needs to happen now? >> we need to have kind of a standing rock for voting. we need to restart the voting rights movement because with jeff sessions coming in as attorney general, we have to start investigations now. i am in washington because an asian-american group and the congressional black caucus representative hastings, they have presented 50,000 signatures to the justice department begging justice, please, open an investigation of this racist crosscheck system created by donald trumps operative operating in 30 states, knocking off asian americans, african-americans, latinos voters, please open the investigation now before it becomes a new justice department or maybe it is in a justice department. amy: i want to thank you, greg for your report. stone."ast of "rolling when we come back, we will talk about another trump appointment. stay with us. ♪ [music break] amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peac

eventually jim crow was dismantled in the south. there were vigilante groups such as the ku klux klan. ultimately they failed. urban unrest convulsed many american cities in the 1960s there were some people that thought that the country might actually implode under the weight of racial strife. they thought it would be impossible for blacks and whites to occupy the same country and any kind of amicable way. blacks were no longer accepting sub orders nat status. there were some instances in which both white and black separatists, established a dialogue in the hope of coming to coming to some modus operandi. george lincoln rockwell and members of his american nazi party met with the nation of islam because whites were a large newumerical majority at tt time, the early white separatists assumed the vast amount of territory in the united states would be reserved for the white population. >> blacks would be given relatively small territory. perhaps in the american south to build a so called new africa. the status of other racial minoritie

." >> we have by no means overcome the legacies of slavery and jim crow and colonialism and racism. >> obama saying america has not overcome the legacies of slavery. up next speaking with reverend darrell scott and jim brown. they met with president-elect donald trump today and they're talking about issues that will impact. >>> president-elect trump says he would like ivanka to join the administration. what role might she have. we'll ♪ this artoo unit must be delivered to the rebellion. come on artoo! ♪ artoo! welcome to the rebellion. ♪ this is for you. duracell and children's miracle network hospitals are powering imaginations everywhere. watry...duo fusiong heartburn relief? duo fusion goes to work in seconds and lasts up to 12 hours. tums only lasts up to 3. for longer lasting relief...in one chewable tablet try duo fusion from the makers of zantac >>> welcome back to "hannity." last night during an interview on "the daily show" president obama reflected on a wide range of issues and said this about race in america today. take a look. >> race continues to be this powerful factor i

are two biracial guys living the dream in america, they are lamenting the idea they there is still jim crowolonialism and anything else. if colonialism brought to me what it has, i would say ship it to all over the world. every time i go to africa, the afrikans' to be here, they celebrate the idea that i'm an american. liz: you know, you are an astute observer of what is going on with race relations, how were race relation before president obama took office? 2005-2007. >> they can be summed uneasily, go to a supper market, ball game, blacks, and white, and latinos and asian, we all intermingle, nobody cares, go to your kidding school, nobody cares, only thing time that race matters is when democrats' to get into their buckets and determine okay we got the black vote, asian vote, latino vote, republicans don't care, we care about raising ocean for the boats, but as soon as it is political or somebody needs a scape boat that is where democrats run. to biggest thing that is just you know common sense, chase the money. s money and racism is crazy, ac, academics get it look at what we're talking

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jim crow was no longer the law of the land. the south rose up and said with massive resistance and said no, and used a series of ruses that impact dragged this process out for a long long time. in 1973, the court battles are still going on. in 1973, there was an area in san antonio called the edgewood district and in the edgewood neighborhood it was 96% mexican-american and african-american. was it was the poorest neighborhood in san antonio with the loading-- lowest median income and lowest property valut they taxed themselves at the highest rate in order to try to fund their children's education. by taxing themselves at thees highest rate they garnered $21 for capital. meanwhile, alamo high, which was a predominantly white neighborhood in san antonio taxed themselves at a much lower rate. they garnished over $300 per student. lower rate, 1500% more in funding. down, what we know is that property values have a lot to do with public policy. where governments choose to say put the landfill.l where they choose to put the highway.

jim crow was no longer the law of the land. the south rose up and said, with massive resistance and said no and used a series of ruses that in fact dragged to this process out for a long, long time. well, in 1973 the court battles are still going on. in 1973 there was an area in san antonio called the edgewood district. in the edgewood neighborhood, it was 96% mexican-american and african-american. it was the poorest neighborhood in san antonio with the lowest median income in the lowest property value. they taxed themselves at the highest rate in order to try to fund their children's education. by taxing themselves at the highest rate they garnered $21. capita. meanwhile alamo heights which was a predominantly white neighborhood in san antonio taxed themselves at a much lower rate they garnered over $300. student. lower rate, 1500% more in funding. now what we know is that property values have a lot to do with public policy. where governments choose to put the landfill, where they choose to put the highway, where they choose t

african-americans who serve in either the house or the senate and that has everything to do with the jim crow laws that goes on the book in the south. and the way that that changes over time during those decades, there is a critical thing going on in the south where african-americans begin to leave the south and move northward as part of a multi-decade movement that would later be called the great immigration. and that begins depending on which historian you talk to, 1890s and runs really through world war ii. it picks up momentum around world war i, as there is a need in the north to fill industrial jobs and jobs that have been occupied by men who have now gone off to fight in the war. and you see tens of thousands of african-americans moving northward for the first time out of the rural south and out of agricultural jobs to industrial jobs in chicago, st. louis, cleveland, pittsburgh, new york, and over time the african-american population in the cities increases. and the african-americans in those cities are gradually recruited by the political parties. and oscar depriest is a perfect exam

up the story my home town became known as one the most racist places in america last bastion of jim crow segregation so fast forward to decades and i was a long way from my childhood in georgia living in new york having a conversation starting a fight could learn the truth of ago story because it was always told the navy a ganed mythic term of a murdered girl like uh kkk but i just wondered if it was a racist fantasy that kid like to talk about but when i typed forsyth 1912 into the database up came the list of headlines of a 80 year-old woman raped and killed allegedly by three black men. here is a photograph of her round 1912. dead-end this was me playing hooky with the graduate work with the bubonic plague galbraith i was bored and tired of reading my dissertation / was sitting at the computer terminal that had all of this information and things were coming on-line 2005 and archives were scanning all this information so long with that was newspaper so this story i always imagined as murky started to come into view. so this is the pitcher that came up with the land the constitution. oc

. >> give is distressing to us now and the era of jim crow with these segregation and lynching it should not be surprising house of the officials put this together with race supremacy with their notions of exhibits like the old plantation to bring in old african-american performers to enact those good old days and these were performers that would pet caught in. >> business for decades after the civil war? >> that's right post reconstruction between the white south and north to put them in a position of struggle. >> something else that if they read your book has to do with animal welfare. it was very shocking and with that beloved animal and the second concern that people would pay extra us tickets to witness this. >> start with the dog is is one of the more shocking things that i came across in of buffalo shelters poodles, terrier, then rounded up and brought to the fair where they were killed then the native people of of fair eight mcdonald's. the humane society in buffalo was very progressive and they were very distressed by this but at the same time wanted to a knowledge the cultural

important message in this story is that throughout those obstacles, throughout segregation, throughout jim crowhout the discrimination, sexism, these women did not allow them to stiffle them. >> of the 33, only catherine g johnson is still living n2015, president obama awarded her the presidential medal of freedom. jamie yuccas, for cbs-3, "eyewitness news". >>> all i can say is i love, love, loved this movie. >> did you? >> great actresses, and based on amazing women. >> i love these stories that take these little known, you know, figures in our history, really give them the do. >> great, great movie. >> paying it forward. >> philadelphia parking ticket didn't turn out so bad after all. we'll show you why next. >> chances are, you're owed some money and you probably don't even realize it. it is all because of class action lawsuits. i'll show you how to make sure you get the money you deserve today on "eyewitness news" at 5:00. >>> meanwhile, it is always a good time for a good deed. >> and the holiday season is a even better time for good deeds, like one from last night on the 2100 block of ha

they called them jim crow laws, and those laws made it illegal for people of colour to stay, to eat intay in hotels, to use bathrooms, they had separate bathrooms. some places, you couldn't walk on the sidewalk with a white person, you had to get off the sidewalk and walk in the street. the green book was an historic travel guide published for black people during thejim crow era. it was more than just gas, food and lodging, there was everything for anything you might need on the road, whether it was a doctor, or churches or department stores. haberdashers, tailors, drugstores. there were golf courses. disneyland was listed in the green book. it was a pretty major guide. by the 1960s, we estimate it had been sold to over 2 million people. my mother is from kansas, my father is from north carolina, so we travelled mainly back and fourth to those places. my parents would use the green book to plan places where we might stop, without it, it would have been far more difficult, if not practically impossible. because people used to pack food, for us to get to kansas, we had to pack food that'

despite assassinations and too many martyrs, voting rights were achieved, and jim crow was officiallytled. by 1973 the thety of atlanta -- the city of atlanta, the city that famously became too busy to hate, had a black mayor, and former students of the atlanta university manifesto were now in charge of the municipality. although the 1970s were personally mournful years for lena who lost her father and husband and son between 1971 and 1972, the 1980s saw another extraordinary change in the career of moses calhoun's great granddaughter. she opened in a one-woman broadway show that brought her every honor and accolade known in the theater. the 1980s were a decade of horns for black calhouns north and south. in march 1981, the same month that saw lena's triumphant broadway return, dr. homer nash, the great grandson of moses' sister, died at the age of 94. in the words of the atlanta constitution, dr. ohio her nash's -- ho her gnash's death ends in error. he was the longest practicing black doctor in georgia and the longest practicing doctor of any race in atlanta. you could call the blac

superintendent gave a speech where he talked about so many of the policies whether it be during jim crow, whether it be people who were leading the lynch mobs historically have been police officers. the police have, for all of american history, been the face of physical oppression for black and brown americans. f so sometimes we talk about how can we rebuild the relationship or how can we restore when in reality we need to be talking about creating a new relationship because there's never been a good relationship g between black americans and the police. >> host: wesley lowery, cleveland, ferguson, baltimore, minneapolis, new york, charleston. we had a black president during that time. is that coincidental, or is that -- is there a connection? >> guest: i think, i certainly think there's a connection, you know? i think there is -- i think that cuts in two directions. first, you know, i do think it's coincidental in that we've seen unrest, and we've seen police shootings every year of our modern history. this was going on during the bush years, during the clinton years. we might not have

distance of being in hawaii, and not growing up against some of the grinding pressures of, you know, jim crowcircumstance. >> trevor: i'll parprayed, you said we watched the president-- you were talking about the last party the president threw, a black audience coming together to celebrate. and you know the feeling was one of loss but almost a fiewt loss. >> yeah. >> trevor: going, "we will never see this again. >> yeah, yeah. >> trevor: do you genuinely believe that? >> i don't know. it's harder to predict. maybe there's another path that i didn't see. this is only my assessment of how he did it. you understand? like, maybe there's some other path that i'm completely missing because i certainly didn't see this path at all. that's how he did it, and i don't think many african americans could have done it the same way, you know,. >> trevor: it's strange. what i picked up in the article, it's almost like you're saying it's crazy enough, white people can see the anger and then they fear that anger, so they respond differently to the person who-- >> it might not even be the anger. it's just like

chicago police superintendent gave a speech recently where he talked about so many policies, during jim crow or people leading the lynch mobs or enforcing housing or school segregation historically have been police officers. police for all of american history been the face of physical oppression from black and brown americans so sometimes we talk about how we can rebuild the relationship or restore when we need to talk about creating a new relationship because there's never been a good relationship between black american and police. >> host: cleveland, ferguson, baltimore, minneapolis, new york, charleston, we had a black president during that time. is that coincidental or is there a connection? >> i think there is a connection. that cuts in two directions. first it is coincidental in that we have seen unrest and police shootings every year of modern history. this was going on during the clinton era. we might not have been talking about it or covered it as a media the same way but these issues have always existed but i do think the presidency of barack obama activated a level of activism and

despite assassinations and too many martyrs, voting rights were achieved and jim crowe was officially dismantled. by 1973, the city of atlanta that famously became too busy to hate had a black mayor and former students of atlanta university manifesto were in charge of the municipality. although the 1970's were personally mourned for lena lost her father, husband and son between 1971 and 1972, in 1980 saw another extraordinary change in the career of moses calhoun's great granddaughter. she opened in a one woman broadway show that brought her every honor and accolade in the theater. the 1980's were a decade of honors for black calhouns north and south. in march 1981 the same month that saw the true um -- try up, moses nash died at age 94 in the word of the constitution, dr. homer nash's death ends in error. he was the longest practicing black doctor in georgia and the longest practicing doctor of any race in atlanta. you could call the black calhouns lucky, but they were never selfish achievers. they shared their bounties, gifts and achievements with their country. and you could say th

loud, proud, and black voiced in a jim crow world. his jab knocked sense into us. yes, they did. pushing us to expand our imagination, and bring others into our understanding. now there were times when he swung a bit wildly - that's right. wound up and accidentally may have wronged the wrong opponent as he was the first to admit. but during his triumphs and failures, ali achieved enlightenment and inner peace that we are all striving towards. in the '60s when other young men his age were leaving the country to avoid war or gaol, he was asked why he didn't join them. he was angry. he said he'd never leave. his people, in his words are here. the millions struggling for freedom and justice and equality, and i can do a lot of help in gaol or not. right here in america. [ clapping ] >> he had everything stripped from him. his title, his standing, his money, his passion. very nearly his freedom. but ali still chose america. i imagined that he knew that only here in this country could he have all that. so he chose to help perfect the union where a descendant of slaves can become the kin

. >> reporter: in the 1960s, jim crow america, even the scientists were segregated.ut nearly 30 years later, awarded the presidential medal of freedom. the trail blazer is this astronaut's role model. >> you look lovely in what you are wearing. >> the only reason i look lovely is because you made it possible. >> reporter: katherine johnson's daughters are proud. >> every day i know how lucky i am. and it's been a joy. >> reporter: a remarkable life of a humble pioneer now on the big screen. no longer hidden from history. rehema ellis, nbc news, hampton, virginia. >>> that is going to do it for us on a friday night. i'm lester holt, for kri kri >>> an angel evena and kanye come out of hiding. >> they each re-emerged on "extra." >> "extra," "extra." ♪ extra. >> the first kanye sighting since his break down. his hair bleached. new details on his surprise night out without kim. and angelina out of exclusion as her divorce war continues too rage. ivanka quitting trump inc. to work in the white house? plus. >> call me. >> why kellyanne conway is sending a message to bruno

quite naturally they thought she was a maid. 1960s, jim crow america, even the scientists were segregated. but nearly 30 years later, awarded the presidential medal of freedom. the trail blazer is this astronaut's role model. >> you look lovely in what you are wearing. >> the only reason i look lovely is because you made it possible. >> reporter: katherine johnson's daughters are proud. >> every day i know how lucky i am. and it's been a joy. humble pioneer now on the big screen. no longer hidden from history. rehema ellis, nbc news, hampton, virginia. >>> that is going to do it for us on a friday night. i'm lester holt, for this is today's tmj 4. live at 6. >> it is south eastern wisconsin is bra bracing for serious weather. storm team 4 will be tracking it all weekend long. and chief meteorologist. >> we will be doing cut ins throughout the weekend, once it starts and it will start this evening. we had snow on sunday all day. place, we won't see a rain snow mix, but all day sunday and it continues into sunday night. >> winter storm watch, runs through midnight sunday night, green bay, i

a loud and proud, and black voiced in a jim crow world. [applause] his jab knocked sense into us. yes, they did. pushing us to expand our imagination and bring others into our understanding. there were times when he swung a bit wildly. he wound up and accidentally may have wronged the wrong opponent, as he was the first to admit. through all the tryouts and failures, he seemed to achieve the enlightenment and inner peace that we are all striving towards. in the 60's, when other young men his age were leaving the jail, heo avoid war or was asked why he did not join them. he got angry and said he would never leave. arepeople and his words here. the millions struggling for freedom and justice and equality and i can do a lot of help in jail or not, right here in america. [applause] he had had everything stripped from him, his titles, his standing, his money, his fashion, very nearly his freedom. ali still chose america. i imagine he knew that only here in this country could he have -- when it all back. so he chose to help perfect the union where a descendant of slaves can become the k

. >> reporter: in the 1960s, jim crow america, even the scientists were segregated.ut nearly 30 years later, awarded the presidential medal of freedom. the trail blazer is this astronaut's role model. >> you look lovely in what you are wearing. >> the only reason i look lovely is because you made it possible. >> reporter: katherine johnson's daughters are proud. >> every day i know how lucky i am. and it's been a joy. >> reporter: a remarkable life of a humble pioneer now on the big screen. no longer hidden from history. rehema ellis, nbc >>> that is going to do it for us on a friday night. i'm lester holt, for all of us at nbc news, thank you for watching and good night. c'mon in, pop pop! happy birthday! i survived a heart attack. i'm doing all i can to keep from having another one. and i'm taking brilinta. for people who've been hospitalized for a heart attack. i take brilinta with a baby aspirin. no more than one hundred milligrams as it affects how well it works. brilinta helps keep my platelets from sticking together