see something in this guy for the jim cutler character. it is not the role that i originally went into read for. tavis: i have heard actors tell that story before. they went in for one thing and ended up getting something else. sometimes you go in for one thing and you end up getting cast as something else. what do you make of that? >> it's a crazy business. you never know from one minute to the next what you're going to be doing. that's what i love about it. there's no predicting what can happen in this business. in this case i went into read for the swing boss, one or two days work. then i got the call that i didn't get the part. i thought, there goes "mad men." three months later i get the call to come in and play this guy. works, he isweiner a particular kind of genius going on there. he knows what he wants and he can get it. he knows instantly whether something is right or wrong. tavis: you broke through something with matt that others have not. i have met him a few times through the years. is, he doesn't necessarily like to hire acto

jim cutler, a performance which one critic called "nothing short of outstanding."essed by the dashing don draper at all played by jon hamm. take a look. >> your agency was involved. we'd always be so intimidated. what was that man up to? such a cloud of mystery. now that i've been backstage, i'm deeply unimpressed, don. you're just a bully and a drunk. >> finally, somebody tells it like it is. >> yes. and he got no lines. we loved it. >> oh, man. i got so much hate mail for that. >> did you? >> oh, yeah. people love don draper. he is beloved. >> he is. >> i told the truth. i did. the guy is a drunk and a bully. so -- but people do not like that. >> did they not realize you were an actor reading somebody's lines, acting? it's a script. >> you know, some people don't get that. but that's okay. i'm actually -- >> it's a compliment. >> it's a compliment. >> were you a fan of the show before you joined it? were you -- >> no, of course i was. yeah. i saw it from day one. there was a break in there for 18 months when i kind of stepped back a little bit, but then i went ba