one of his co-authors join us now, a man who knew him well, jim defelice. tragedy, this. your friend was trying to help another armed servicemen who had come out, suffering from this very frequent problem now that so many ex-soldiers have, post traumatic stress disorder and it ended tragically. what did you feel when you heard about this in terms of what chris was trying to achieve? >> i didn't -- i still -- i guess i'm still in total disbelief that chris is gone. and i think that everyone that knew him feels the same way. chris -- i personally don't know the exact details of what happened. and i'm sure that more information will come out, but chris, even before the book, even before he was famous, devoted a considerable amount of time to helping veterans, whether they were disabled, whether they were -- had -- were suffering from traumatic stress or just regular guys. and he -- he would take people out for -- go hunting, go fishing. and he would also just, you know, talk with people who had been back from the war. really, he devoted -- that was really what his life -- bi