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. >> the guy, jim demint, from south carolina, waterloo, failure, all that stuff. now he's threatening other people in the republican caucus. don't go over there and do anything with this guy. >> ronald reagan once said it takes two to tango. this republican party, it don't want to dance. it wants to sit on its hands. the fundamental struggle, the health care debate is critical for our country. as you said about demint, they want to take down president obama and de-lidge mize him. that's what we're going to get to. that's what president carter was also talking about. they see the opportunity here to have the president fail and that's what this health care fight is largely about on the republican side. >> does president obama have it in his innards, he says he's a fighter, to move forward and say, okay, it's time to move on? we gave you a chance. when does that time come? >> now. now. it's a defining moment. it's a defining moment for president obama. for his presidency. for the future of reform. for the future of the democratic party and the for sake of the nation

i don't remember jim demint saying when george w. bush was trying to reform social security a few years ago that he was putting the troops at risk in iraq because he was worried about some domestic issue. look, the republicans at this point are basically irrelevant to the process. i know that sounds like a harsh and definitive thing to say, but they have taken a hard right off the main highway of american politics. and democrats don't need their votes. and whatever noise they make is ambient noise. it's not really relevant to how any of this shakes out. >> or in this context, it's ambien noise, perhaps. you have bizarre behavior that there may not be any memory of later. and demint is a great example of this. there is a harvard study that says 4500 americans dying because they don't have health insurance, one every twelve minutes, five per hour. this is a legitimate argument -- does that not qualify as a stunning casually list if that's what we're talking about, to compete with the worst conflict imaginable? and why does jim demint h

why does jim demint hate american sick people?well, you know, it's ten times as many people as we lost in iraq, ten times as many as we lost on 9/11. look, it's possible to overstate this. there are a lot of things that are very good about the american health care system. a lot of people come from other countries to get health care here, but there are flaws that many knows are deeply problematic. one is discrimination against sick people. that's what the status quo does. it discriminates against people and pushes them into medical bankruptcy for no other reason than that they're sick. and this bill, whatever version passes will end that. and in that sense it's the most important civil rights legislation we've had in this country in a generation. >> the political audacity of this, demint was the one who said health care reform, when obama lost on it would be his waterloo. so the republicans spend the summer whipping up the politics on this to near revolt status. and obama is then criticized for devoting any time to it? one side sta

it is interesting that congressman wilson and also senator jim demint when he likened this to waterloole in their state felt. congressman wilson spent the month of august at town hall meetings where people were angry and emotional about this issue. >> i'm curious how this is playing out with the average people of south carolina, despite the strangeness if that is the word of some of the behavior, when it comes to mark sanford, could wilson be in trouble? i know his district, from what i'm reading could go, a former marine being rob miller? >> you know that would be real surprise this is a very conservative district that stretches from part of columbia, the state capital, call the way to the coastal island of hilton head. a lot of conservatives there not sure the democrats would ultimately be able to take over that seat but it certainly provided a all right of momentum for the democratic likely candidate there, who has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars since the wednesday night incident online from donors. also, congressman wilson has got an a lot of attention, become something of

this week to the 53 senators, including 51 democrats, who voted down an amendment by republican jim demintsouth carolina to stop spending federal fund on the airports at pennsylvania congressman jack murtha built with more than 150 million dollars in federal subsidies and ear marks over the last 20 years. the airport has just three, count em, three daily commercial flights all to washington d.c. the federal subsidies average $100 for each of the fewer 30 passengers who use the airport each day. it would be cheaper for

. >> jim demint was in the long parade of official speakers. >> we will take this country back in 2012. >> but the vast majority of the people were ordinary americans making a statement simply by attending. the sea of signs showed their grievances are many. >> the country is headed in the wrong direction big time. >> some blamed president obama. >> he's moving us in the wrong direction. >> the president was in minute my trying to sell his health care program and closed a bigger partisan divide. >> the time for gains has passed. now is the time for action. now is the time to deliver on health care for every american. >> using campaign style stops like this one, the president is hoping to build momentum from his prime time address to a joint session of congress. a grassroots conservatives are addressing congress and the nation, too. they are hoping to send their own message loud and clear. the tea party protesters say washington is their ultimate destination, but it is not the end of the road. in washington, i'm brian mooar, wbal-tv 11 news. >> the time is 5:08. coming up, a wark warning

senator jim demint yesterday proposed an amendment to get water to these forms but it didn't take long for california's diane feinstein to interfere. you won't believe what she said. take a look at this. >> water is a huge complicated and difficult issue. and no one, no one, cares more about it than i do. or has tried harder to sort out the problems. so in a way, this is kind of a pearl harbor on everything that we're trying to do which is to work together to put interior in the lead and not hand cutch interior. -- and not handcuff interior. that's why i objected to the amendment. sean: an amendment that would bring water to the struggling farmers is tantamount to pearl harbor? you may think this issue is too complicated for regular folks to understand but bringing water to the farmers seems like a very simple matter. there was an amendment proposed yesterday that would have gotten the job done and you votted against it. that doesn't seem too complicated to me. now, "hannity's america" continues in 90 short seconds and acorn is hiring and you won't believe the employment add that they

that would be waterloo senator jim demint and you lie congressman joe wilson. bent for leather that we will have no health care reform. it is one thing to be against health reform and it is another thing to be against it when you have the disastrously bad health care of in the country. to talk about this, we were supposed to be joined by national committee chairman and proud south carolinian don fowler from south carolina. what else was in columbia, south carolina tonight? really, really bad weather. huge thunderstorm which interfered with our satellite feed and cost us the chance to hear from mr. fowler. what can you do? we apologize to him and to you. we think it is a story worth talking about and aware hoping to do so as soon as it stops raining in south carolina. we turn now to our unplanned media event correspondent, kent jones. >> tv is an inexact science. statements things go wrong and sometimes things go terribly, terribly, terribly wrong. >> okay. >> this is one of those. the filter between private thoughts and public declarations can be perilously thi

. >> south carolina's other senators, of course, senator waterloo jim demint, a man perhaps more thaner senator has staked his career on killing health reform. >> we must stop this government takeover of health care. friends, this is a critical battle for the heart and soul of america. and for freedom itself. >> and then there's this guy, south carolina's own personal metaphor for things are good just like they are. it's one thing to make the case against the country fixing something if in your state you're doing great on your own. but if your state is a disaster area on its own, it is quite another thing to throw yourself in the way of what you more than anyone need for help. joining us now is a proud south carolinian eugene robinson, columnist and associate editor for the "washington post" also an msnbc political analyst. thanks for being here. >> great to be here, rachel. >> is there a connection or a lack of a connection between south carolina's bad health care outcomes and how violently opposed south carolina's politicians are to health reform? >> it's -- it is, i think, you'd ha

republican senator jim demint joins us. he is the author of "saving america." i want to ask you. in "the wall street journal," they are going to have an op-ed, and we have it straight off of the press. there is no answer to the health-care issue from sarah palin. it looks like she is fighting back and still involved in politics. >> i am glad. it is an excellent article. it focuses on some of the issues that i have introduced as some others have introduced over the years to make the system or better, so i am glad to see her back in the fight. greta: one of the things she is hammering on is the point that she made earlier. she said it would give unelected officials life and death rationing power, a subject of much controversy. is that indeed true, that the house bill, it will really be rationing? life and death russia? >> somebody has to decide who gets what and when -- life and death rationing. someone at the high level has to decide what these plans cover, and you have got this huge group of people heading towards retirement. someone is going to make a decision, so it is in the p

. >>> and joining us now from washington, senator jim demint, republican from south carolina.s a vocal opponent of the president and health care reform plans. but he's also a speaker at the rally today in d.c. good morning, senator. thanks for joining us. >> good morning, kate. >> so, the organizers say they're expecting thousands, as yunji just said. this coming after the emotional town hall meetings over august. i guess i wonder, what is driving all of this sentiment? what's bringing people out early on a saturday morning, do you think? >> the interesting thing, kate, this is not a republican gathering. a lot of them in town. they came to see me yesterday. democrats, independents. they're people who said they have never been involved in politics. there's increasing concern in america about where we're headed. all the spending. all the debt. the talk of new taxes. the government takeovers. people are just alarmed. and they're coming to appeal to their government, here in washington. and i think that's a good thing. >> the other night, as you know, your colleague from south ca

that would be waterloo senator jim demint and "you lie" congressman joe wilson, both hellbent that wehealth care reform. it's a one thing to be against health reform and it's another thing to be against health care reform when you have the most disastrous health care in the country. we were to be joined by proud south carolinian don fowler who was going to be joining us from columbia, south carolina. what else was in columbia, south carolina, tonight? really, really bad weather. houston thunderstorms, which interfered with our satellite feed and cost us the chance to hear from mr. fowler. what can you do? we apologize to mr. fowler and to you. we think it's a story worth talking about when we're hoping to do that just as soon as it stops raining in south carolina. we turn now to our unplanned media event correspondent kent jones. >> t is an inexact science. we prooued that this evening. sometimes things go wrong and sometimes things go terribly, terrib terribly, terribly rong. this is one of those. the filter between private thoughtings and public declarations can be perilously thin.

members of congress including tom price and mike pent and marshall blackburn, also republican senator jim demint will be speaking. doesn't make sense anymore to talk about the relationship between the extreme fringe of the conservative movement and the modern republican party, because you can only discern a relationship between two things. if you can tell those two things apart. about half an hour ago, the top-ranking republican in the house of representatives, not some anonymous back-bencher nobody's ever heard of until he had a tantrum on television, the top-ranking republican in the house of representatives, the minority leader, john boehner, appeared on a webcast organized by the lobbying arm of the family research council. this is an anti-health care reform webcast. it features the top republican in the house of representatives and it is hosted bay group that describes health reform as, quote, obama's tax and death power grab which will, quote, produce a moral disaster and enable the washington liberals to use your taxes to turn their entire anti-life agenda from unrestricted abortion on de

conservative stars like mike huckabee, michele bachmann, and jim demint of south carolina are comingut to play to the base. it you're in the d.c. area and decide to head on over, here are some of the sessions that you could check out at the seminar. there's the true tolerance countering the homosexual agenda in public schools. or the new masculinity, where you can learn about how feminism has wrecked havoc on society. you can also have obamacare, rationing your life away, and, of course, let's not forget global warming hysteria, the new face of the pro-death agenda where you can find out how fighting global warming will lead to forced abortions. that's just a sample of the kind of talk going over there this weekend. let me bring in tony perkins, the president of family research council. the organization that's sponsoring the values voters summit. i have to hand it to you, tony, you've definitely got innovative titles for the seminar. >> and you have got some good graphics. they come together well. >> what's the mission? a lot of people say the conservative movement is in disarray. th

he will also be joined by senator jim demint of south carolina, who is most famous in the health care debate for urging conservatives to fight the president on health care reform not because we don't need reform, but because defeating reform would hurt the president politically. it would be, in mr. demint's words, a chance to break president obama. also participating in the group effort republican conservative response tomorrow is former ohio secretary of state ken blackwell, who's pushing the myth that health care reform will, quote, mandate taxpayer-funded abortions. mandated abortions. also, a representative from liberty council will be there. you may remember liberty council from this press release, which suggested that the president is out to mandate free sex change surgeries. and, of course, no anti-reform gop tag team would be complete without a renowned ethicist on their side, which is a man named wesley smith is being billed for tomorrow's event. he is among others, a hard-hitting anti-peta article titled -- yeah, that's what it says -- veganism is murder. all in all, tomorro

every republican bill introduced in this congress, whether it's jim demint or tom coburn or tom prices every single one of those bills covers preexisting conditions and ensures that those people can get health care at the cost of everyone who doesn't have a pre-existing condition. and everyone of those bills, go get them, go read them, covers every single american, every single uninsured american. and you know what we do? we don't put them in a government program, we give them choice. the same choice we want for our health care. it's now my privilege to introduce a leader on health care, and a leader of conservatives in the house, dr. tom price of georgia. >> thank you so much, i'm so pleased to join my colleagues and friends around the nation to accept the 1.3 million signatures on these petitions to talk about one of the most important issues facing americans today, and that is whether or not the government will be making health care decisions. and as a physician, i know that when i would treat my patients that one of the things that would make them the most angry is when they unders

it was an amendment offered by republican jim demint, that would have ended the $1.4 million in annual subsidies that that airport gets for its flights to washington, d.c. but the amendment, diane and robin, was rejected by a vote. so, thanks to your tax dollars, the murtha airport lives on. >> a lonely trip out there, jon. all those airports. it really is eye-opening. thank you so much. >>> and coming up, did kidnapping suspect, phil garrido, abduct another little girl more than 20 years ago? her best friend who saw it all, joins us live, in an "gma" exclusive. >>> and she predicted the current recession and says here headed for another collapse. one of wall street's most influential analysts will join one of wall street's most influential analysts will join us live. but 5 minutes ago i took symbicort and symbicort is already helping significantly improve my lung function. so today, i've noticed a significant difference in my breathing. and i'm doing more of what i want to do. so we're clear, it doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. my doctor said symbicort is for copd

senator jim demint from north carolina. representive tom price from georgia. representative pete sessions from texas. john shay. there he is right there. the newest arrival. so they will make some comments to you in order. so john. i was at a tea party on saturday with 18,000. on behalf of all of us, i want to say to the 1.3 million people that signed these petitions, we will not let you down. [applause] >> let me introduce the house whip eric cantor. i would like to present the largest petition drive ever. i am told we are over 1.3 million individuals and counting. that's extraordinary. that is democracy at work. that will allow us to stand up and propose that we give the american people some graurnts. -- some guarantees. that we will bring along our colleagues, and the majority of our colleagues in the houps -- house of representatives to insist that we will not see a government option. that we will not see a government trigger. that we will not see a government replacement of the health care system in this country. [applause] >> this petition drive also has

. >> a little background on jim demint.th carolina, i think he introduced legislation that would have banned single teachers from teaching in school. >> what do you think is radical for the united states senate? >> well, he is in the opposition right now. in the united states senate. he is more in the contention with charles grassley. he is in dhaurncharge of one of committees. he is the one that said you could call the plug on grandma. >> and we were critical of him then. >> i think you may be a bit too radical there. and the truth is that there is nothing in the bill that has anything to do with quote, death panels. for some reason we are shocked -- i offer them a helping hand to get out of the mud, and they won't take it. >> you lie. yeah, there are people saying this plan will force taxpayers to finance abortions. and also take care of undocumented migrants or illegal immigrants. >> you say this is far right radical or whatever, the groups that i say supported me and i took their support and i still would, but there is

every republican bill introduced in this congress, whether it's jim demint or tom coburn or tom prices, every single one of those bills covers preexisting conditions and ensures that those people can get health care at the cost of everyone who doesn't have a pre-existing condition. and everyone of those bills, go get them, go read them, covers every single american, every single uninsured american. and you know what we do? we don't put them in a government program, we give them choice. the same choice we want for our health care. it's now my privilege to introduce a leader on health care, and a leader of conservatives in the house, dr. tom price of georgia. >> thank you so much, i'm so pleased to join my colleagues and friends around the nation to accept the 1.3 million signatures on these petitions to talk about one of the most important issues facing americans today, and that is whether or not the government will be making health care decisions. and as a physician, i know that when i would treat my patients that one of the things that would make them the most angry is when they under

representative mike pence, chairman of the house republican congress, senator jim demint from south carolina, tom price from georgia, pete sessions from texas, and john shady from arizona. there he is right there. the newest arrival. they will make some comments to you in order. so, john, you're first. >> well, pete, thank you. let me say thank you to the national center for policy analysis. let me also say thanks to salem broadcasting and the radio talk show host who encouraged 1.3 million americans to sign a petition to save their health care. on behalf of my colleagues we'll accept these petitions from the american people. and on august, the american people spoke loudly and clearly. they didn't want government messing with their health care. this was just another example of the voices that are being heard. i was in a tea party on saturday with 18,000 people about a mile from my home in west chester, ohio. and they made it very clear that they don't want the government involved in delivery of their health care. what they want is they want us to take the current system, which is the best sy

caller: i am a resident of south carolina and i agree with jim demint.at obama over his health care plan, we can destroy his presidency and when the next presidency. -- win the next presidency. host: does it come down to that? guest: i think it would be a big defeat if he lost, but president clinton covered -- recovered and won re-election. i think president obama could do that. we should not underestimate the powers of the presidency, but he has to be moving in the right direction. host: dover, new york. david on the independent line. caller: i think a big part of the problem is a huge amount of disinformation that is being strewn about about this health care plan. from watching the news media beat this plan up with totally fabricated stuff, i think people should instead find out what it is all about. thank you. host: i want to read the editorial page of "usa today" talking about the stimulus affect on the economy. the editors write -- that said, i wanted your thoughts on the stimulus package, especially what it did for the economy. guest: when you have

>> well, just i think what was floated by congresswoman michelle bachmann and senator jim demint of southsort of in the middle of the republican party, the governor of texas wanted to talk about invoking secession. the truth of the matter is this is a party dominated by its talk radio base, and these very pleasing to the rush limbaughs of the world. this is old music to rush's ears, secession talk and not following the laws of the united states and we just have to deal with and understand that this is the republican party as it is today. as i said last night to get angry at that is like to get angry at air. it's just there, and congressman wilson's affiliation with the neo-confederate groups are probably somewhere in the mainstream of the republican party. >> address the substance. does tim pawlenty have a point? >> i think if he does it's arcane and i think it's premature. you know, we don't have a law passed yet so it's a little early to be determining whether or not the tenth amendment would apply. although i think states' rights are important, and i think many americans do. politicall

guest: senator jim demint of south carolina had a proposal a few years ago to take the money that was ostensibly there in the trust fund, and give it to people as individual accounts to supplement their social security. they would own that account. if you die, you cannot give your social to security benefits to anybody. so you would have this social security, your own individual account, and you could draw on that, but it would be your ownership. unfortunately, the senate turned that down under president bush. in the end, we have to look at different plants. 30 nations around the world have gone to private plan to supplement their accounts. the stock market has had its ups and downs, but over time it grows 5%, 7% a year almost without fail. we may have to look at something like that to supplement social security because otherwise people will continue to be squeezed and seniors cannot live on the benefits that government provides them. host: you have written about the community organization group acorn. the senate move to block giving grants to acorn. tell us about your take about whet

house majority leader dick armie, south carolina leader jim demint, steven baldwin and republican houseders like mike pence and tom price as well as if author and motivational speaker mason we've. this is organized by freedom works foundation and a coalition of other groups including the national taxpayer union and the tea party patriots. watching live coverage. >> we need to speak out and start taking some action and letic the people of this congress know we're serious about what we're talking about. >> troubled asset relief program. >> october 3rd, 2008, tarp-i opens up pandora's box to open up a glut of money to stabilize the banking industry. may, 2009, the effort fails. government grows as many banks are taken over by force. february, president obama signs one of the largest spending bills in world history, a stimulus commiting generations yet unborn to a staggering debt obligation. by july, unemployment reaches new highs. consumer confidence is low and a country's economy stands on a knife's edge. june, taxpayer money bails out aut motive manufacturers like g.m. the numbers are in

jim dementidemint. [applause] this may be the first day in a really long time that senator demint is the most popular guys the author of a book that everyone of you need to recall "saving freedom." is a text book that tells you how to take your country back. senator demint. [applause] >> thank you. çthe new york times -- the "new york times" just reported that 500 people showed up here today on the mall. [laughter] well, i think you all know that the president has warned us that if we disagree with him he is going to call as ouus out [outb] -- call us out [outboos] okay, mr. president, we are out. [cheers] ladies and gentlemen, welcome to waterloo. [cheers] this is a day i have dreamed of for a long time. we stand together today in a critical battle for the heart and soul of america. it is not a personal battle against president of, or a partisan battle. it is a battle between big government, collectivism, and freedom loving americans. the stakes are high. will we continue to hold tightly to the principles of freedom that made america the most exceptional, prosperous, and compassionate nation in history

jim de menthe. this may be the first day in a really long time that senator demint is the most popular guy in town.that the president says if we disagree with him, he is going to call us out ok mr. president, we are out. ladies and gentlemen welcome to water will n8you. this is a day i've dreamed of for a long time we stand in a critical batter for the heart and soul of america. it's not a prnl battle against president obama or a party sdan battle but between big government collectivism and freedom loving americans. the stakes are high we will or will we continue to hold tightly to the principals that made america the most successful nation in history or will we fall for the false hope and empty promises of more government solutions will we continue to climb the mountain of free markets, christian values and constitutional government? or will we sick inch the pit of high taxes, sufficient indicating debt and socialism i join you today not as a sinner but as a fellow freedom loving american. i'm not here to speak to you but to stand with you. and to join my voice to yours tomb americans have fought