so i want to say in jim gaffigan's defense, he was on tour and. he just did it over email. and i don't think the others it was a discussion that was like edited for clarity with jim. it was just i sent in the questions or he wrote them back really quickly and he i don't think he got that. it was a joke. so he just does come across as pretty stiff. but jim's great also. and yet jim kind of was like, this is why biggest question. i'm like, there. it's satirical. i was like, eugene mirman was like, oh my god, i can't believe you have to do this. it was fun. i have the audio too. i mean, it was it was really just fun to kind of it because you know, when you talk about being a woman in comedy or sexism, it's not funny and fun, but this was like a really fun way to be like, yeah, when we get questions like, do you write your own material? they are subtly undermining and you don't even realize it. and also so one of my favorite moments, i think was with eugene or something where was as i was asking the question i was trying to kind of soften it and i was like, these are all just,