>> guest: jim glassman is a columnist for "the washington post."e was the founder of -- of roll call. and he -- i -- he was f -- at one time, the publisher of the new republic. and it's actually -- jim is the most related to the book of the people you might list because he became a trustee because of this book, essentially. when i wrote -- a few years after i wrote the 1990 "washington post" article, we had -- we opened a washington office here, and we had a party to celebrate the opening, and jim came to the party and he was praising this article, 'oh, you got that right, you know, dynamism vs. stasis. this is really how the world works.' so then when i started writing the book and i was doing research in 1995, i said, 'well, gee, i'd better go find some of these dynamists, you know. i -- it's like i know some technology people, but i need to find some people who are more -- at least involved in politics.' so i said, 'well, i'll interview jim glassman,' whom i -- you know, i knew slightly, but we were by no means friends. so i called him up and i