i thought that perhaps the senior executive jim graham and steve dixon were in this ivory tower. and perhaps they didn't know what was going on. as i learned, they not only knew what was going on, but they were in the hand of it. and they weren't going to change and they needed to silence me. so it's been a process. you went to a number of different doctors, all of whom found you to be perfectly mentally healthy, including a panel that, that was made up of some of the best psychiatrists in america at the mayo clinic at every step of the way the airline last. and you, one on this issue, and finally, delta just gave up. but as you noted just a few minutes ago, rather than to say a, we're sorry we were wrong. and she was right. they said that they were making a business decision to not appeal. the final ruling that would make me angry too, but you must have been happy that it was all over finally. and the bottom line is that you one, tell us what that was like. actually, it wasn't really because i had lived with this for so long and i, i thought that we were going to create change w

molly, what do you make of the u-turn we've seen from folks like jim jordan, lindsey graham about classified. we know they're looking at it. to watch jim jordan try to declassified that document was probably the most awkward, cringe-worthy things i've seen in a long time. >> dana bash said, you don't make any sense. none of this makes any sense. his argument was basically she can't do it because she's secretary of state but he could do it because he was president. the point is they'll do anything to defend donald trump. again, it's this weird mobius strip. you have republicans defending trump because they're scared of the base, maybe losing it, alienating it, maybe they're scared of the base hurting them, and then the base decides if republicans are sticking with them, they're going to stick with him too. and i think that they're sort of in a spin cycle of misery for themselves, which, again, they totally deserve. but it is interesting, and i don't know when this -- when or how this fever breaks. >> all right. maya wiley and molly jong-fast, thank you. >>> still to come, how we got to this m

trump, molly what do you make of the u-turn that we've seen from folks like jim jordan, lindsey grahamfaith actors. but even they must know that boxy they're engaging. and and watching jim jordan today say that donald trump declassified the document was probably one of the most awkward cringeworthy things i've seen in television for a long time. >>, yeah that was amazing, and dana bash kept saying you just don't make any sense. none of this makes. and then his argument was basically, she can't do it because she -- he could do it because he was president. the point is it'll do anything to defend donald trump. and again it's this weird -- you have republicans defending trump because they're scared of the base. maybe losing it, alienating, that maybe they're scared of the base hurting them. and then the base decides if republicans are sticking with, i'm there gonna stick with them too. i think they're in a spin cycle of misery for themselves, which, again they totally deserve. but it's interesting and i don't know when or how this breaks. >> maya wiley, molly jong-fast, thank you to the b

republicans rushed to his defense over the weekend two of trump's allies in congress, jim jordan and lindsey graham attempted to downplay this indictment with graham saying that trump is not guilty of espionage as the charges claim he is. meanwhile, trump's rivals in the republican primary mainly focused their criticism on what they called a weaponization -- a weaponized justice department rather than trump himself. and one candidate entrepreneur even doubled down on his stance of pardoning trump if elected. jessica? >> and brie, while we have you, have any prominent republicans made any attempts at criticizing former president trump for these actions? >> so jessica, one republican who is speaking out against trump is his former attorney general bill barr. barr appeared on fox on sunday and provided one of the most overt criticisms of the one-time commander in chief take a listen. >> i was shocked by the degree of sensitivity of these document s and how many there were, frankly. defense department documents about our capabilities are in know universe donald j. trump's personal documents they're the

. >> these very weak and misleading arguments right out of the bat by lindsey graham and jim jordan would seem to suggest they really don't know how to defend this if at all. >> also, there is no one arguing that a president -- going to jim jordan's point. nobody is arguing that a sittal president doesn't have the authority to classify and declassify information. there's no argument about that, that a commander-in-chief authority. the difference here is there's no evidence it ever happened. >> yet there seems to be a pattern emerging of trump's own lawyers leading investigators to key information. you had the manhattan indictment with michael cohen. now you have evidence ran corcoran. you say corcoran was probably the source of the search warrant after he realized he was being played by trump. that's a theory. we don't know that as fact right now. >> well, i think i'm right because there's no other way -- first of all, to put that into a search warrant, the probable cause for this obstruction had to come from an inside wednesday who laid it out. you don't conduct the search on a former pr

. >> reporter: but staunch allies on capitol hill like lindsey graham and jim jordan jumped to trump'sefense. >> i think the espionage charges are ridiculous. >> if he wants to store material in a box in a bathroom, on a stage, he can do that. >> reporter: on tuesday, the former president will surrender to authorities, be arrested and booked before his arraignment where he's expected to plead not guilty. the case landed in florida where the alleged crimes were committed after a year of prosecutors collecting evidence with a washington, d.c.-based grand jury. but the south florida venue poses challenges. the jury pool is likely to be friendlier to trump. >> because it's mine. they took it from me. >> reporter: and even before trial, trump's lawyers are likely to try to suppress key evidence from one of trump's own attorneys, evan corcoran who testified to the grand jury in d.c. and whose own notes are used in the indictment to make the case that trump tried to hide incriminating documentation. he made a funny notion, why don't you take them with you to your hotel room and if there's any

i've heard so many different defenses from lindsey graham and jim jordan about about the national archivesd trump is saying is if i did it legal. because i did it. and that relates to everything. it's a perfect phone call when i shake down president zelenskyy because i'm the one that made the phone call. the other point here is what was the alternative. what was the fbi and department of justice to do? just allow mar-a-lago to continue to operate like a barnes & noble where anybody could come in and look at classified documents donald trump had in his possession? >> come in from the port apparently. you posted a tweet yesterday mocking donald trump for his indictment under the espionage act. you wrote if he spent a little less time smearing me and more time following the law he'd be better off. as ever, with the gop, there's a lot of projection going on here. >> that's right, and it's not just donald trump. it's kevin mccarthy if you recall. his reason for removing me from the house intelligence committee has been debunked by so many outsized sources now. yet the person who he used to acco

. >> lindsey graham and jim jordan jumped to trump's defense. >> espionage charges are absolutely ridiculous. he did not dissim nate, leak or provide information to a news organization to damage this country. he is not a spy. >> if he wants to store material in a box in a bathroom, on a stage, he can do that. >> on tuesday, the former president will surrender to authorities. be arrested and booked before his arraignment where he's expected to plead not guilty. the case landed in florida where the alleged crimes were committed after a year of prosecutors collecting evidence with a washington-based grand jury. the florida location poses challenges. they're likely to be friendlier to trump. >> it's called election interference and they're doing the best they can with it. >> trump's lawyers are likely to suppress key evidence from one of trump's own attorneys. he made a funny motion, cork ran noted, as though well, okay, why don't you take them with you to your hotel room and if there's anything really bad in there like you know, pluck it out. trump will make his first appearance tuesday before

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situation, if you watch lindsey graham on abc this morning, two seconds after the conversation starts, the first words out of his mouth are hillary clinton. and at least jimweird way, is actually trying to defend trump on the merits of the indictment, the accusation, but the problem, as we saw bill barr say this morning, the indictment is really solid. so ultimately the only place they could go is to political. >> but partisanship is -- do you think the charges in this indictment are serious? all americans say, 61% yes. republicans, 38%. those are the numbers that donald trump, he doesn't even have to look at them. he knows them because he knows his base. >> two things could exist at the same time. one being that this indictment paints a damning portrayal of the former president and what he did with those documents. and then also that his republican allies are not interested in engaging with it or being moved by it in a way. there is also another strategy that you've seen already since this was released and in the weeks to come to filling this void of information with attacks against the justice department. to paint it as partisan, to paint this investiga

& prose i'm brad graham, the co-owner of the bookstore along with my wife lissa muscatine and we're very pleased to be hosting two ryzens here this evening we have veteran journalist jim and his son, journalist tom, and they're here to talk about their new book the last man the cia the fbi, the mafia and the kennedys and one senator's fight to save democracy. our jim, of course, is a very accomplished investigative reporter, did some outstanding work with the new york times, where he was for for nearly 20 years from 1998 to 2017. he a member of the team that won the 22 pulitzer for explanatory for coverage of the september attacks. and then with a colleague he shared that 26 pulitzer for national for coverage of the nsa domestic spying program. he's also written four books a about america's fight over abortion, about the cia's final showdown with the kgb, about the cia and the george w bush, and about the costs, consequences of america's war on terror and first dozen years or so, after 911, currently his senior national security correspondent for the intercept his son, tom it's been a journalist for 15, 16 years. and he's worked for various news organizations covered

& prose i'm brad graham, the co-owner of the bookstore along with my wife lissa muscatine and we're very pleased to be hosting two ryzens here this evening we have veteran journalist jim and his son, journalist tom, and they're here to talk about their new book the last man the cia the fbi, the mafia and the kennedys and one senator's fight to save democracy. our jim, of course, is a very accomplished investigative reporter, did some outstanding work with the new york times, where he was for for nearly 20 years from 1998 to 2017. he a member of the team that won the 22 pulitzer for explanatory for coverage of the september attacks. and then with a colleague he shared that 26 pulitzer for national for coverage of the nsa domestic spying program. he's also written four books a about america's fight over abortion, about the cia's final showdown with the kgb, about the cia and the george w bush, and about the costs, consequences of america's war on terror and first dozen years or so, after 911, currently his senior national security correspondent for the intercept his son, tom it's been a journalist for 15, 16 years. and he's worked for various news organizations covered

& prose i'm brad graham, the co-owner of the bookstore along with my wife lissa muscatine and we're very pleased to be hosting two ryzens here this evening we have veteran journalist jim and his son, journalist tom, and they're here to talk about their new book the last man the cia the fbi, the mafia and the kennedys and one senator's fight to save democracy. our jim, of course, is a very accomplished investigative reporter, did some outstanding work with the new york times, where he was for for nearly 20 years from 1998 to 2017.

& prose i'm brad graham, the co-owner of the bookstore along with my wife lissa muscatine and we're very pleased to be hosting two ryzens here this evening we have veteran journalist jim and his son, journalist tom, and they're here to talk about their new book the last man the cia the fbi, the mafia and the kennedys and one senator's fight to save democracy. our jim, of course, is a very accomplished investigative reporter, did some outstanding work with the new york times, where he was for for nearly 20 years from 1998 to 2017. he a member of the team that won the 22 pulitzer for explanatory for coverage of the september attacks. and then with a colleague he shared that 26 pulitzer for national for coverage of the nsa domestic spying program. he's also written four books a about america's fight over abortion, about the cia's final showdown with the kgb, about the cia and the george w bush, and about the costs, consequences of america's war on terror and first dozen years or so, after 911, currently his senior national security correspondent for the intercept his son, tom it's been a journalist for 15, 16 years. and he's worked for various news organizations covered

. >> even lindsay, graham the staunch is a doll trump supporters coming out and saying that he believes these charges are serious. and -- jim rafferty, thank you. you can see the clock that we're watching right now. 51 minutes exactly before the arraignment of the former president begins. that is our countdown clock as we continue to await the proceedings. taking place inside the courtroom. reminder, we do have a reporter inside the courtroom as well. >> just to pick off for andrew left. of all national security. these are significant charges. with a national security implications. it is worth noting here. for decades, or spend the sundance with administrations. and the national archives and records administration what to do with documents. my question to you, how should these types of documents have been handled? >> these documents are generally stored in what's called a skiff. this is a sensitive compartmented information facility. this has very specific in technical constructions to prevent a surveillance. there are layers of security even to get in. including badge-ing, in typing in a code to get in. some u.s. embassies