. >> jim greer. >> and some these other politicians. >> yes, jim greer is the party chairman who's -- who's under scrutiny. and, you know, there were others that spent a lot more money than rubio. >> okay, let me get to the quick here. when i was looking -- our producers were all going through it, we're looking at one that was particularly weird. if you go to somebody's event and your card gets side swiped or something and the guy who parked the car, this is the one that jumped out at us. do you think that was over the top for rubio or is that a standard kind of expense? if you go to an event, and your car gets side swiped when the guy parks your car, you shouldn't have to pay for that out your personal life. what do you think of that expense, as a reporter? >> well, let me use your example. look, i mean, i wouldn't have build it to "the miami herald." "the miami herald" issues credit cards at least in the olden days. their expenses that are business related are put on the credit card. >> right. >> so obviously if that had happened to my car in front a valet damaged i wouldn't have bu