. >> commissioners i'm you jim haas. i'd like to - these microphones you have to swallow them to make them work properly. i want to condominium on the heritage report. i served on the federal advisory council on historic preservation under president carter in the 70s. at the time that the secretary standards were being developed. those were developed for a narrow purpose to deal with the tax credit and to protect the tax treasurer. i've you witnessed the expansion of those guidelines and scope of application in ways i've never expected and it's had an effect on people in their be feblt to use the historic resources. there's been a reaction to that in the 21st century from a gentleman at notre dame. some of you attended his lecturer. i have a paper that summarizes the theme. that has brought forward a go robust discussion on the secretary standards. now the spear heritage report overlooks that doesn't mention that. i find it startling and i've interviewed 5 members of the committee that said it wasn't discussed. that's qu

i'm looking the points that jim haas raised in conjunction where we left the action agenda from the spurs historic preservation report the idea was to develop a list of priority steps and actions. i'd like to have staff condominium on where you think we're at with that and how we tie the action items on the super report. i'm going to open my mouth on whether or not we need a subcommittee and we should be on the subcommittee to help you (laughter) >> mr. fry. >> tim fry department staff in the john and john's question this summer we've begun compiling design guidelines that are based on the secretary of interior standards we had one intern to mormon late on ways to apply the secretary of interior adds. we've been attending various you community meetings relevance at the victorian alliance and heard many concerns the direction they felt we should take. eave begun that public engagement and we certainly think it's a way to have a boarder forum and several meetings not in in a rigid format to help influence those guidelines. that's one thing we'll continue to give you updates with that docume