. >> commissioners, i'm jim haas. i've been involved for all things civic center for several decades, as some of you know. i've taken a great interest in what's going on here, and i'm greatly impressed. i think your staff is totally committed to making this happen, and i find the consultants really full of great ideas and so forth. the civic center complex is a unique and remarkable set of buildings and design which should get national, if not international attention. unfortunately, we tend to ignore it or neglect it or it certainly hasn't gotten much respect from the city in the last 50 years and as an example of that, 20 years ago almost exactly, there was a contract let with prominent consultants to do exactly the same thing as going on today, and it had workshops and the whole to-do. in the fall of that year, willie brown aborted the whole project because he thought it might interfere with his reelection campaign. and if you want to find the gory details of this, i'm writing a book which will be out in november or

ira haas/leilani estates resident: "the longer we wait, the more it's going to turn into - or could turn into - lava flows over roads. then we don't have a chance."jim/leilani estates resident: "our house is up on stilts. and so we're hoping that the shaking didn't cause things or, or damage the home. but we don't know because we can't get in." according to the u-s geological survey, at least 8 volcanic vents have opened. and everyone living in the community of leilani estates have been ordered to evacuate. steve gebbie, leilani estates resident: "withing 5 minutes there was probably a 3 foot wall of lava on the street." officials say they're working on a plan to allow residents to temporarily return home to remove additional belongings. steve gebbie, leilani estates resident: "and now my house might be gone. that's just devastating" butt to "might have to start over at age 56" thursday's eruption was followed by a 6.9 magnitude earthquake.since then-- molten lava has destroyed several homes as poisonous gases continue to spew out.and officials say more more eruptions are likely. tina neal, usgs: "there's nothing to say that it can't develop some ad

haas. nbc news national political reporter and co-founder and ceo of axios, jim vandehy with us as well.in. there is a "new york times" lead story here on trump embraces shadowy plots and eroding trusts. this is something that the guy did obviously wasn't bound to the truth while he was working day in and day out and there were not great consequences. but, you know, john, you look at this story and you look at his presidency. and it really is. he's brought conspiracy theories, plots during the campaign, of course. ted cruz's father killed jfk. can you go on and on and on. i mean it's part what makes following this presidency so dizzying but also what actually republicans should be far more concerned about than even bill clinton saying he didn't know what the meaning of is is. i don't know what the meaning of is is super sized a billion times. >> i think there has been at various times trump is tracted to conspiracy theories. there is obviously much more looseness with the trooj auth ae lies. the obsession with conspiracy theories and tall tales dates back for a long time. i think the poi