so i want to talk more about this idea with jim hansen a military blogger with black five dot net jim going to say on the show i just want first get your take i mean what do you think about this idea of arming teachers and also about the fact that so many people have signed up for it first of all amidst a cornucopia of really bad ideas to try and solve this horrendous problem i think this is actually a good one i mean not all teachers are in any way going to be suited for this but the ones who are i think given the choice between unarmed victims and armed people who may as well in here said be able to actually stop a shooting like this why not and we you know we should mention this is a voluntary program but when you look at the facts and you look especially at history i mean arming people isn't necessarily a disincentive for shooters and might actually put passers by in more danger we saw of course what happened with the times square shooting back in august in new york city and nine people injured because you know the police got involved and they had their guns and you know accidenta

always interesting to talk to you i think it's important to get all these perspectives out there jim hansen a military blogger black five thought that well the phrase if you don't have anything nice to say about something someone don't say anything at all doesn't normally extend to journalism except in the case of glenn beck back of course is a former fox news host to most recently made headlines for trying to sell a jar filled with his urine on a toy of barack obama for twenty five thousand dollars clearly he enjoys controversy and do that again this time he's abandoned his employees at his news and entertainment network the blaze for mentioning the president by name because back is sick and tired of hearing about barack obama here he is talking about not talking about the president on wednesdays radio show so i don't know if you can play joe biden but i can't take the man's voice i don't want to hear him i don't want to know about him. you want that information go anyplace else there's thousands of outlets now you can have all that information you want i'm not talking about that man anymo

right always interesting to talk to i think it's important to get all these perspectives out there jim hansen a military blogger black five time at all when you hear the term burden of proof is usually associated with prosecutors trying to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is guilty of a crime most of us wouldn't think about this term in relation to nine eleven first responders. now we know who was guilty of what occurred on september eleventh we've seen the faces of the al qaeda members responsible for claiming the lives of some three thousand men women and children but it turns out that the volunteers who surrendered their time and health to help a city in need are now being asked to do something they never have been asked before in order to access financial help with their medical bills as part of a fund is stablished by congress in two thousand and ten volunteers must prove they were on the scene helping out the documents according to the law must be witnessed or sworn but in the resulting chaos of the tragedy and cleanup it is not an easy task i was joined earlier by ground ze

>> well, i maybe take a slightly different perspective than jim hansen in i don't think that the emissionsm the oil, from this particular pipeline tips the scales to make the difference between a disaster and a wonderful idyllic in life. it sense a symbol to the world of the concrete action we say take. if president obama wants a legacy as being the president who turned u.s. energy policy around, and started getting us transitioned from the old fossil fuel based economy from the last century to the near zero emission energy system of the 21st century, then he needs to deny the permit to this pipeline and send a signal that we cannot be expanding last century's fossil fuel infrastructure and expect to wind up with a 21st 21st century energy system. >> cenk: all right let's keep it real. if he does approve it, is he sending the opposite signal, that i just talked about climate change but in reality, i don't think it's that big a deal. >> so far it's hard to really identify anything concrete that president obama has done on the climate issue to really bring down emissions. if he approves key