jim hansen answers that question next. ♪harry's meeting clients... ♪...from far away.wrinkles.♪ ♪if only harry used some... ♪...bounce, to dry. ♪he would be a less wrinkly, winning guy.♪ >> welcome back. a college professor sparking outrage for blaming the law say vegas massacre on white victimization and trump. rob: carly shimkus here to get another comment. >> at the time of a national tragedy, causing outrage online for blaming a las vegas shooting on white victimization, a professor at drexel university after the shooting took place, to took to twitter including these, white people and men are told they are entitled to everything, this happens when they don't get what they once. the narrative of white victimization has been built over the past 40 years, yesterday, what happens when those who believe they deserve to own the world also think it is being stolen from them. his tweets sparked outrage online. let's get some reaction. he should be picking up garbage, not teaching, doesn't deserve to be a teacher, arthur on twitter said he lost the one of the fears trying

us army special forces veteran jim hansen, thank you for coming on this morning.oldiers giving up, we got the leaders on the run, this is wonderful news. tell us how important this is. >> donald trump's focus on crushing isis. as a guy who wrote a book on a plane to defeat isis i couldn't be happier for it to be obsolete. this is a huge win. raqqa was their capital, the black flag is in the dirt in raqqa and they are running everywhere we can find them, running for the border and looking for any safe haven they can run and hide. jillian: a huge run for donald trump. a blow to the image of isis. how do they go about other terror tactics at this point? >> there caliphate is gone. that was the big thing isis did. they actually ran their flag up and held territory. that is a huge defeat for their recruiting efforts worldwide. a time for them to look at what they are actually about. they are no longer a somewhat nationstate and that is good news for everyone. rob: it is getting some coverage in network media, it is a big story but it is a really big story. a major thre

aaron cohen and jim hansen. back to the timeline. i want your analysis.e did not get shot at that time like we thought. instead, he couldn't get any further so he went to the above floor. by the time he got himself down to the door again, it was ten: zero five. what do you think is taking so long to get to this timeline and will beget another revision zero five >> a hotel that is how many floors? brian, i've been training s.w.a.t. teams for 15 years. the clearing a hotel of this scale, it's a full-time s.w.a.t. team comprised of thousands of entry s.w.a.t. members. even with a full team deployed to the hotel, to be able to clear every one of those halls to determine where the shots are coming from, regardless of whether you are getting security guards who may have been shot or not, it's all relative to me. this tactical clearing is so colossal but the fact that the s.w.a.t. team managed to get to that door regardless of whether the security guard was hit and able to make entry on that room regardless of how they got in, whether the shooting stopped or had

jim hansen.irst off, what about the fact that the vegas journal report is true, he was shooting at these tanks on the side and they did not penetrate far enough to explode them, can you imagine if they did, aaron? >> yeah, it would have been absolutely devastating. brian, this has the entire mosaic of this attack, the amount of planning involved -- if those bullets were found inside jet fuel tanks if my sources are correct. that means that the amount of sheer -- the size of that blast had those gone off, those two or three rounds. if there was an ak up there, it would be surprised if there wasg anything heavier, this is al qaeda level destruction. i'm sure jim will agree with me. the amount of planning here is what is absolutely baffling me when you guys were talking about the chief at las vegas metro believing there was someone else involved. i have to believe there was someone else involved. due to the basic profile, the lunacy of this thing. >> brian: what aaron is saying, jim. that's what the

aaron cohen and jim hansen. back to the timeline. i want your analysis.get shot at that time like we thought. instead, he couldn't get any further so he went to the above floor. by the time he got himself down to the door again, it was ten: zero five. what do you think is taking so long to get to this timeline and will beget another revision zero five >> a hotel that is how many floors? brian, i've been training s.w.a.t. teams for 15 years. the clearing a hotel of this scale, it's a full-time s.w.a.t. team comprised of thousands of entry s.w.a.t. members. even with a full team deployed to the hotel, to be able to clear every one of those halls to determine where the shots are coming from, regardless of whether you are getting security guards who may have been shot or not, it's all relative to me. this tactical clearing is so colossal but the fact that the s.w.a.t. team managed to get to that door regardless of whether the security guard was hit and able to make entry on that room regardless of how they got in, whether the shooting stopped or hadn't stoppe

now let's bring in to discuss this at a higher level, jim hansen the president of the security studiesroup. you see him all over the channel. he's excellent as is counterterrorism expert aaron cohen. first off, we heard about another report to "the daily beast" is running, o that this guy actually rented hotel rooms outside another concert. perhaps he was going to perpetrate this horrible incident on september 28th instead of having it on sunday night. what do you take from that? >> that hasn't been corroborated yet but it's interesting, could it have been a dry run, did he go to this potentially and lose his nerve? where does it play into when the girlfriend leaves? is he free from earthly concern concerns? what pushed him over the edge? at this point we don't have any ideology, we don't have any massive life event or anything that would normally triggere? i. was it just some sort of psychotic break? all of those things play into it and what brought him into that hotel room overlooking a country music festival where "the daily beast" report had it overlooking a pop and rap festival. t

hansen. she is 27 years old and is well known in the santa rosa community as a church volunteer. we also want to mention that we spoke with the family of a gym calmly -- jimanta rosa. the apartment complex that he lived that has been evacuated completely, and it took about 24 hours for his family and friends to figure out where he was at. they learned that he has been transferred down to a burn unit in the south bay. he is going to be okay even though he does have some burns on his body. so it is the stories that we are starting to hear from family here of the missing and the injured and unfortunately that death toll has risen to 15. right now, authorities are searching and you could just imagine how heartbreaking it is for these families and how frustrating it can be since we are more than 24 hours out from this fire and hundreds of people have not heard from their loved ones.>> thanks christina. coming up next, our fire coverage continues. we will go live to napa with ed -- with an update their as flames continued to rage out of control. at stanford health care, we can now use a blood sample to detect lung cancer. if we can do that, imagine what we can