jim hanson, who presented these nasa projections to the senate in the us in 988. interesting. despite knowing about climate change, early on x, on for decades, apparently funded climate change deniers. how much damage do you think that did? well, i can, i'm pretty sure that it did a lot of damage in delaying climate policy. not exxon alone. of course, it was the fossil fuel industry in general that invested hundreds of millions of dollars in basically this information campaigns to the public sewing doubt about climate change. and we have seen some of these means that exxon's put into the public. they are appearing in german election campaigns, for example, even recently. and i think it did a lot to give the impression to the public that climate science is debated when we have had a consensus on human close climate change in the scientific community for decades. now, these are pretty powerful allegations are, could this study have consequences for exxon? will the company be held accountable? well, there is a number of court cases against exxon going on in the unite

jim hanson served in the u.s. army special forces. he joins us now. jim, good to see you.got to have his lawyers in there with them. this has dragged on. you know a lot about class if i classification. where are we? >> shows how little joe biden cares about our nation's secrets. not only did he have them at a think tank funding by chinese communist at the of the of pennsylvania, apparently scattered all over his home where his degenerate junky son was living at the time, cavorting with foreign prostitutes. how could that possibly go wrong? there is no way this man even then and especially now should have control of our nation's most vital secrets. will: does anything happen then? i know what would happen to you if you took classified documents? it is such a tired question but the accountability, consequence, do you expect any? >> you know, i actually think there might be some because the democrats need to get rid of him anyway. they know he is not capable of running again, being president in 2024, and beyond. gives them an excuse. maybe this is going on he is not as sharp