jim hanson, former special forces and chief editor for middle east forum. jim, good morning to you.ou just heard trey yingst say a lot of people are heeding this warning to head south, some people are staying. what do you make of this move by israel to give this 24-hour window for civilians to leave and what will happen after the 24-hour window closes? >> israel is going to move in and remove hamas from any power and control of gaza, which is a vital thing to do if there is any chance of peace going forward. hamas cannot be left in control of anything. the idea from hamas that civilians are a vital part of their strategy. hamas uses them to demonize reality by forcing them to retaliate and places their operation in civilian areas, they are located in mosques, schools and hospitals because they want dead civilians to stop israel from moving against them. >> todd: jim, how do you view this war pleaing out from this point forward once israel begins the ground invasion? >> it is going to be ugly, there is no way it cannot be. hamas wants civilians to die. israel does everything they can

jim hanson, former u.s. army special forces. jim, blinken says reaction to attack on u.s. service members would be swift and decisive and we have airstrikes in syria. what do you think, it is the appropriate deterrent for iran to not escalate further? >> we will find out, carley. the problem is iran wants the u.s. to be involved to generate support for the cause of the palestinians and broader idea that they are a regional hegemon and power in the gulf and maybe the gulf arab states will block their play. i think it will backfire on them. i don't think any of the states, saudis and the rest will back attacks on the united states by shia militia that are proxies of iran. iran was the main sponsor of hamas, who started this whole mess. i think the u.s. response was appropriate and hope the iranians get the message. >> todd: pentagon under no illusion the strikes will stop the attacks. you agree, although you disagree this is good move by iran. why last night? why not immediately in the moments following the attacks on u.s. bases? was that strategic or something else at play?

jim hanson tell me about the culture there. >> the founder of the middle east formum wrote a book.ulture is built around the idea that jews are evil. you can see that they teach children to hate jews. it's sickening. >> jesse: of leader of egypt says that this culture is incompatible with civilized society. >> any descent person should look at this and judge it as deficiency and unacceptable. the fact we try to give the palestinians a pass on this when they proved time and time again they are willing to do the most horrific things -- raping and killing women and children -- and israel is supposed to accept this. we stop them from what they need to do. we need to wipe hamas out completely. >> jesse: people say the palestinians are oppressed. are they aprocessed by israel or by hamas? >> there you have it. they are oppressed by hamas. of the only way to change that is to allow israel to do what needs to be done. the israel victory project was started six years ago to push hamas out of power and make sure they are not there and children in gaza and in the west bank and israeli childre

naval seal who trained israeli forces and also running for congress in virginia and jim hanson who served in the army special forces and the chief editor of the middle east forum. cameron as you see all of this unfolding across the united states, the call for a day of jihad, do you think we have an appropriate assessment of the level of threat right here in the united states? >> hey, will, thank you for having me. if i'm going to be very honest with the american people, i think we need to come to grips with some of the importantest nature of our southern border and our own security vulnerabilities. we are a sophisticated nation with many resources but i don't know that we are really prepared in the way we should be to mitigate a threat the likes of which is reel has just encountered. that was a small microcosm of something that could occur here within the united states. so it's real. i like to tell people that the threat is highly credible. but we do have a a to fix these and that's to go back to the trump era doctrines with what we had with our foreign policy and some of our natural resi

and so this movement is something that climate scientists like jim hanson has seen coming too.ople like matt gaetz get in the way. the courts come through. it taps on us on the shoulder. this is happening. i found out that my water proof boots weren't water proof at all. it took ten years to learn that. >> there are two books, i've read them both. terrific. michael man, david lipsy. >>> some of europe's top diplomats in kyiv today. a show solidarity for ukraine. the u.s. stopgap funding bill includes nothing for kyiv. in europe, similar signs of political strain are emerging 19 months into this war. eu official says this unannounced informal meeting, the first ever held outside eu borders was intended to signal the bloc's unwavering support and to discuss the peace plan. while that meeting in kyiv may be symbolic, the conversations taking place on capitol hill could really be a matter of life and death for ukraine. in just the past two hours, nbc news reported there's roughly $5.4 billion left in funding for ukraine, according to a u.s. official. broad bipartisan majorities in

army special forces and america matters executive director jim hanson.o this guy has a grievance, we believe it was triggered from chatter or from an ex-girlfriend situation. went in there, mowed down 18 people, boom, disappeared. >> yeah, exactly. and the question now is, if he's in the house, did he bring anyone with him. but all, you know, intention right now, they don't know that there are any hostages in there. and i think the most dangerous situation for all of us, for everybody on the, you know, response teams and for anyone inside the house is, if it's a hostage situation. if it's not, the available options for the response teams, for the operators going in, increases dramatically, and i think that is the situation we're hoping for. if he's in the house, they want him to be alone because then they don't have to worry about anyone else potentially becoming, you know, a victim. >> jesse: so we heard about the protocol that they use to go in. it's maybe three hours. why does it take that long, if you're going to go in first with the bull horn, then