joining me jim harper, the vice president of the competitive enterprise institute. lcome back, jim. >> nice to be with you, kennedy. kennedy: let's talk about reality winter is. she the edward snowden of 2017? >> barely. she did leak information, classified information, and i think she did the public a service on the whole, unfortunately the service she did was illegal, and didn't have the skills or knowledge that edward snowden did or reveal the information as edward snowden did. kennedy: when snowden gave his gigantic trove of documents to the intercept here, did so because he knew the vulnerabilities at the nsa and did everything on a thumb drive which he took with him when he left the building and the country, but this person, i don't think she realized that the nsa has been scorned, and this is a spying agency, and they figured out how to use their internet skills to squash people who will try and snowden them once again. >> yeah, leaking in washington is a professional sport, and edward snowden was a professional leaker. reality winner wasn't playing tennis lik