-- >> jim harrison: yeah. >> anthony: in ah -- >> jim harrison: arizona. >> anthony: arizona. >> jim patrol, which i teased a lot. i'll be hunting, and their border patrol plane flies over, and i run under a tree like i'm hiding, and then their vehicles start swarming in they say, "harrison, you asshole." i says, "i'm trying to keep you on your toes." >> anthony: what was it about this place that hooked you? >> jim harrison: well, i'm claustrophobic acutely so, so montana's about the best place you can live. you never feel hemmed in. any direction you could go miles and miles. [ laughs ] ♪ it had been very hot for three weeks, so i worked well into the cool night, when at three am a big thunderstorm hit. the lighting was relentless. two hundred years ago when the cheyenne from the east attacked the absaroka in this valley. a group from the cheyenne were massaum, the wolves of heaven, warriors who painted themselves solid yellow. i want to be a yellow wolf of heaven. they disappeared into the lightning. xx ♪ >> anothony: seattle, a city with a collective identity, constantly in flux, a

. >> jim harrison: it was between here in those mountains that cheyenne and crow battle took place.go? j

harrison and i worked together on the jim hunt campaign back in 1984 trying to get jesse helms out of the senate and now he'd be somewhere in the middle, a moderate in today's republican party, at the time he was the dark prince of conservatism. harrison, take it away. >> thank you. i want to endorse almost everything i've heard this morning. i grew up in a small town like the secretary mentioned, in fact, it was so small we had drivers education and sex education in the same car. when you get to these grand candidates who i've worked for for almost 30 or 40 years, you have to get rid of the stereotype people have of their party or their type, whether it's a woman or banker or teacher or african-american or most importantly a democrat. you have to get through that stereotype before people can analyze who you are and what your qualities are. that one of the big challenges we have today is there is a huge gap between the reality of democratic voters and the impression people have of democrats and i wanted to talk about that just a little bit. the confusion is between activists and voter

harrison is one of the deans of political strategy and pulling -- polling in washington and is also somebody who specializes in electing drug -- democrats -- in his terrain. we worked together on the jim hunt campaign way back in 1984 trying to get jesse helms out of the senate and now -- i guess he would be somewhere in the middle, a moderate in today's republican party. >> thank you. i want to endorse almost everything i've heard this morning. i grew up in a small town like the secretary mentioned and in fact it was so small we had drivers education and sex education in the same car. what i wanted to talk about was a little about the before you get all these great candidates who lot -- who i've worked for for almost 40 years, you have to get through the stereotypes people have of their party, or of their type whether it's a woman or a banker or a teacher or african-american or most importantly a democrat that you have to get through that stereotype before people can analyze who you are and what your qualities are. that one of the big challenges we have today is that there is a huge gap between the reality of democratic voters and the impression people have of democrats and i wanted