being an american in paris, jim hertling is the best perspective on that.g us the american perspective on the events taking for -- taking place in france. after 11 were killed in a terrorist attack in france at charlie hebdo. we will be back. ♪ >> good morning, everyone. breaking news, a terrorist attack in paris, france. scarlett, give us the calendar in the next number of hours with the president and former president of france. >> at least 11, perhaps 12 were killed at the offices of charlie hebdo. we do know the president has called an emergency cap netmeeting beginning in about 15 minutes from now. and sarkozy, the former president -- a cabinet meeting in about 15 minutes from now. and sarkozy, the former president, will be making a statement as well as francois hollande making a statement to the public. >> our guest joins us from our london news bureau, jim hertling, who knows more about being an american in france than anyone i know. how does this play differently than an -- that an attack in new york or miami? >> that is a great question, and it rema

hertling? >> i agree. one thing jim just mentioned was the jordanian pilot under the control of daish right now, too. they are using that as leverage. we're trying to -- they are trying to use this to break apart the coalition and people who are countering them. they are hurting right now. they have suffered some setbacks. and it's going to be problematic for them in the future. and they're grasping at straws right now, poppy. >> that's a very important context to put this in. because general reese, one thing very significant that we learned this week is that u.s. has said -- and our intelligence sources telling our barbara starr, that some 6,000 isis fighters have been killed by u.s. and coalition forces. about half of what they believe to be what makes up all of isis fighters on the ground. are we seeing a panic of sorts from isis? >> well don't know if you'd call it a panic, poppy. i think what you're seeing is an attrition of what we wanted to do with the coalition to help the iraqis do what they need to do. and tha

jim, stick around. let's get more now on this terror attack. the target what comes next. i'm joined by our global affairs analyst, bobby go ghosh and christiane amanpour our cnn military analyst, retired general mark hertling. this is startling but shouldn't be surprising given some of the threats and the actual attacks against this magazine over the years. >> yes, indeed. and the publisher of the magazine famously said he'd rather die than live like a rat. when he said that he was very conscious that that was a possibility, that he was under this attack. he personally was put on a al qaeda hit list on a wanted list by al qaeda in that magazine that jim sciutto was referring to "inspire" magazine, in 2013. so yes, this magazine was in the crosshairs and its publisher particularly was -- had a target on his back for a long time. >> the editor as you point out, stefan was killed. wolinski cabu were killed. christiane, you've spoken with those cartoonists over the years. what did they say to you? >> after the provocative cover they had, i spoke with them which led to them being fire-bombed and the increased police presence around them. i asked them about the environment we find ourselves in right now, how dif

hertling what do you want to hear from the president? what does he need to say to the american people? >> well what jime is very important and gets everyone on his side. that will drive appropriations. wolf as you know we're all over the world right now. it's more intense now for our military than it's been in two decades. so i think the importance of pulling the team together and saying we're continuing to fight this terrorism while upholding our promises around the world is very important. >> phil mudd our correspondent pamela brown just reported that amedy coulibaly and his partner hayat boumeddiene were surveilling the area months before the kosher terrorist attack. it sounds like to me there was some sort of intelligence failure. what do you sense? >> look you've got to look at it from two perspectives and we've obama been focused on one. we've been looking at the potential hundreds of people in europe that might have gone to places like iraq and syria and gotten training and once they returned the security services are good enough to have enough resources to follow them. there's a different way t