. >> with us tonight live from washington congressman jim himes, democrat of connecticut and important to this conversation a member of the house intelligence committee. congressman himes, a very basic question to you is how do you now proceed with this split between parties within your own committee and was the apology from your chairman enough for you today? >> well, the apology itself really can't possibly repair the damage that was done by this bizarre maneuver that chairman nunes did yesterday. i mean, you know, by taking material, not even sharing it with the committee or the committee staff to the white house -- and mind you, this is material that was generated presumably at one of the intelligence agencies. these are executive branch agencies. they could have gone straight to the president but instead it goes via devin nunes personally, not via the committee, it goes to the white house, that really damages the perception of impartiality, therefore making it all the more important that this investigation really be undertaken not by members of congress who are in the political fr

we'll speak live with democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut. he's a member of the intelligence committee and our correspondents, analysts and guests, they will have full coverage of the day's top stories. >>> let's begin right now on capitol hill where the fbi director james comey has been briefing congressional leaders. let's go straight to our senior congressional reporter manu raju. manu, what are you learning? >> reporter: yeah, wolf, right now james comey meeting behind closed doors with top house leaders who have access to the most secret intelligence, most classified intelligence in the country. those are four leaders atop republican and democrat and the house intelligence committee and house speaker paul ryan as well as house minority leader nancy pelosi. now, this came after a meeting that comey had with top senators, four top senators earlier today as well. now, we are told this is all part of the larger investigation into russia. russia meddling, as well as any connections, if there are any connection between people in the trump univ

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joining us now democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut. intelligence committee. thanks for joining us. >> hello, would have. >> cnn has learned that trump national security advisor j.d. gordon met with the russian ambassador kislyak during their republican national convention in cleveland in july along with trump advisors at the time carter page and walid phares. were you aware of these meetings? >> i wasn't aware of those meetings in particular, but it is, of course, part of a much larger issue, which is that there have been meeting after meeting after meeting with jeff sessions, with michael flynn, now with these other advisors. all kinds of people associated with the trump campaign, which by the way, in and of itself, this is why the president's tweet about schumer and about pelosi are really pretty silly. there is nothing wrong with meeting with a russian ambassador. in fact, it's the russian ambassador's job to meet with people. what is wrong is when you then misrepresent or lie about it the way michael flynn did and subsequently jeff sessions did. and, of c

. >> intelligence committee member congressman jim himes, connecticut.ave to keep pushing until it does make sense. thank you so much, sir. >> thanks, rachel. >> do keep an eye on this question about the national security council staffers and white house council staffers. if they really were reviews intercepts of foreign surveillance involving members of the trump transition, why were they reading that stuff? and is it possible that the white house has been tracking the fbi probe into the trump/russia scandal using the intelligence community's capacities, using the surveillance capacities of the u.s. government in order to track the investigation into themselves? if so, i really don't know what the fix is for that. a lot still to come. stay with us. ♪ ♪ let your reign begin. evony, the mobile game. download now. >>> to one who was in the white house and became somewhat familiar with its inner workings, the watergate matter was an inevitable outcome over excessive concern over leaks an insatiable appetite for political intelligence all coupled with a do i

and let me go to jim himes here. it's been said to the justice department give us any reason, any evidence to believe there was wiretapping by the former president. now they say we can't get the information. this a yo yo operation. this is to keep this crappy story alive, isn't it? why else would they be doing this? they know they didn't wiretap. why don't they talk? >> well, they may. we've got an open hearing coming up on the 20th by fbi director comey. he may take the opportunity to say what he's wanted to say, which is to debunk this story. the investigation is already so large. it's going to take time. i think it was their best bet on how to make this thing go away by saying okay, guys, now it's your problem. it's a serious enough charge, can you count on us on the 20th to ask the people who are there. >> what's so complicated about finding out there was a wiretap ordered on the president? >> well, it's not. the president could have the fbi or comey in the office in seconds and get the answer. >> kellyanne conwa

democrat jim himes read the tweet to comey. >> is that accurate?ve no view, have no information on potential impact because it's never something we looked at. it certainly wasn't our intention to say that today because we don't have any information on that subject. that's not something that was looked at. >> reporter: the president also noted this exchange between republican trey gowdy and fbi director comey about former national security adviser michael flynn. >> did you brief president obama on any calls involving michael flynn? >> i'm not going to get into either that particular case, that matter, or any conversations i had with the president. i can't answer that. mr. >> reporter: at the white house, press secretary sean spicer tried to downplay the role of flynn and paul manafort, the second of three trump campaign managers. >> general flynn was a volunteer he there has obviously been discussion of paul manafort, who played a limited role for a limited amount of time. >> reporter: spicer asserted that no evidence has been presented to suggest c

. >> let's bring in another guest, democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut. he's following this issue very closely. congressman, thanks very much for joining us. >> hello, wolf. >> the new congressional budget estimate that's enacting the republican legislation would reduce federal deficits by $337 billion over the next decade. react to that estimate because a lot of republicans are saying that's great, positive news in cutting the photograph deficit. >> yeah, you get the 337 billion because they're reducing subsidied to people to buy health insurance to the tune of $3 trillion. when you throw 24 million people off the health insurance as the cbo said that this bill will do, it's not surprising to me that you save a little money. how my friend ted is going to explain to his constituents that get thrown off health insurance, don't worriy, the deficit will e higher. and ted, from florida, their population is about to go up. i'm not sure how ted explains that to his senior population in florida. i'm not one bid surprised that the government is going to save mone

joining me now, congressman jim himes from connecticut. good afternoon to you.et's start with this. the president's claims appear to be based on reporting in conservative media of two fisa warrant. one if ju in june that was denied and then another in fall that may have targeted a server tied to a vush sh russia bank. do you know anything about this? >> well, i don't know anything about it beyond what has been reported in the media, but i do know, and this is really important, the president of the united states cannot and does not order wiretaps. wiretaps are received because typically someone in the fbi has evidence, probable cause, that in the case of the fisa court, there is some sort of foreign agent, some sort of threat of he is espionage. so either president trump is promotes unsubstantial yalgs ey out of a right wing website or radio show without any evidence or he just disclosed the existence of this fisa warrant which leads to the next question of what is the probable cause that caused this warrant to be granted by the court. >> that is exactly what i w

we are joined tonight by connecticut democratic member of congress jim himes who is second in line among the democrats on the house select committee on intelligence. in other words, he is among the members of congress who share in the secrets of our country, and one of those looking into russia's involvement in the presidential election. well, first of all, congressman, your reaction to these dual stories in this one area, and how do you think this will affect the conversation tomorrow, the scope, or the extent of your work? >> well, good evening, brian, yes. you know, the breaking story on the fact that the obama administration apparently worked very hard to preserve evidence and the work that had been done by them and the intelligence community at the time is actually a very good thing for the american people. i will tell you, i and many of my former -- my current colleagues were very concerned that with the transition of the administration, particularly if there was the possibility that this would be a difficult political issue for the new administration, or if they had something to h

you heard jim himes talking about it. at the end of the five-hour hearing with jim comey, he was the one, this ally of the trump white house, month who said you've put a great cloud over this white house. i think it was clear that devin nunes' goal today was to rupp down to white house and try to move aside that cloud. >> carl bernstein, can only imagine the pressure nunes is under from the white house and fellow republicans. what do you assess his credibility as tonight? >> i don't have the slightest idea. i think he has a history that would make us doubt his credibility. particularly what he said during the hearing the oh tay. more importantly, i think incidentally the press especially need to report as aggressively as we can what facts can be obtained about these allegations that nonetheless is making and whether they are true or not. but apart from that, we are seeing today and tonight why we need a special prosecutor. there is abundant evidence that there's something that has happened in terms of those in the campaig

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we are joined tonight by connecticut democratic member of congress jim himes who is second in line among the democrats on the house select committee on intelligence. in other words, he is among the members of congress who share in the secrets of our country, and one of those looking into russia's involvement in the presidential election. well, first of all, congressman, your reaction to these dual stories in this one area, and how do you think this will affect the conversation tomorrow, the scope, or the extent of your work? >> well, good evening, brian, yes. you know, the breaking story on the fact that the obama administration apparently worked very hard to preserve evidence and the work that had been done by them and the intelligence community at the time is actually a very good thing for the american people. i will tell you, i and many of my former -- my current colleagues were very concerned that with the transition of the administration, particularly if there was the possibility that this would be a difficult political issue for the new administration, or if they had something to h

i asked jim himes that of connecticut, and he said, sure! we're happy to work with them! then i asked on anything with the word repeal? and he's like, of course not. so, do you really see that happening? >> well, this has sort of been the internal democratic party conversation since the election, right? they want to figure out if as a party, they want to follow mitch mcconnell's lead in the obama era and just be the party of no to everything, or do they want to find some places -- infrastructure seems like the big, juiciest target for them -- where they really might be ideologically aligned with donald trump in a way that they can reach across the aisle. here's the problem, since the election when that conversation started, that conversation is all renewed again now because they just saw donald trump suffer a political defeat with the health care repeal, and so, they smell blood in the water. the democratic base does not want democratic politicians in washington working with donald trump at all. they want to say no to everything with trump. and democrats now just saw that

lets archipelago get some more on all of this with democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut. intelligence committee. congressman, thanks for joining us. >> hi, wolf. >> your colleague on the house intelligence committee, the ranking member adam schiff, he said earlier today that he's been presented with what he described as new evidence on the trump campaign's ties to russia that could merit a grand jury investigation. do you know what he's talking about? >> well, the ranking member and the chairman and the leadership of the two houses here in congress are part of a group that is known as the gang of eight and the gang of eight are a group of people with whom the intelligence community and law enforcement share particularly sensitive information. so, i think that that is what adam was talking about because the rest of the members of the committee have yet to see this piece of evidence. i will tell you that, you know, congressman schiff is a former prosecutor, a very, very careful guy. so, i take him at his word that this is something that presumably explains why fbi director

joining us now is another democratic member of the committee, jim himes of connecticut. congressman, thanks for joining us. >> good evening, wolf. >> you just heard your ranking member say he won't say if he thinks that the chairman nunes should step down. are you among those who think he should step down? >> well, i am with adam on this one. it's sort of hard to imagine how this investigation proceeds with any credibility. i am hopeful that maybe adam and congressman nunes can come to some sort of agreement. but remember, there's now a pattern and i'm kind of a believer in three strikes and you're out. look, just a couple weeks ago devin nunes is standing up for michael flynn saying he's been brought down by washington swamp creatures, that he deserved to be thanked zpe turns around and gets fired by the white house for lying to the vp. it ournz out both chairman burr and nunes are asked to knock down stories with the "the new york times" and now we have today's events where devin acting in a very irregular way takes potentially classified information to the media and t

a short time later connecticut democrat jim himes read the tweet to comey. >> is that accurate?we've offered no opinion, have no view, have no information on potential impact because it's never something we looked at. it certainly wasn't our intention to say that today because we don't have any information on that subject. that's not something that was looked at. >> reporter: the president also noted this exchange between republican trey gowdy and f.b.i. director comey about former national security adviser michael flynn. >> did you brief president obama on any calls involving michael flynn? >> i'm not going to get into either that particular case, that matter, or any conversations i had with the president. i can't matter that. >> reporter: mr. trump tweeted, "f.b.i. director comey refuses to deny it." >> reporter: at the white house, sean spicer tried to deny the investigation into flynn and paul manafort. >> general flynn was a volunteer of the campaign. there has obviously been discussion of paul manafort, who played a limited role for a limited amount of time. >> reporter: s

congressman jim himes. >> it gets to something we don't talk a lot about, which is really important, do the russians have some fort of leverage on president trump, financial or otherwise? >> i briefed the president on the concerns that i had. >> reporter: the committee's investigation was thrown into disarray yesterday when republican chairman devin nunes announced that he had seen legal foreign surveillance that involved members of the trump transition team. he angered democrats by first briefing the media and mr. trump. today he apologized to the committee. >> at the end of the day sometimes you make the right decision, sometimes you make the wrong one, but you have to stick by the decisions you make. >> reporter: getting steele to testify will take more than just democratic support. scott, committee republicans would have to back the idea, as well. after that there is the possibility steele won't want to appear. >> pelley: jeff pegues in our washington newsroom. late today a fourth victim of the london attack died, a 75-year-old man whose name was not released. the others were a p

jim himes / d-conn. :53-1:00 rep.th carolina((james comey / fbi director))the fbi, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election.((vo))fbi director james comey confirmed to the house intel committee, a long-reported investigation. and although president trump called the russia story "fake news" earlier monday . the fbi appears deadly serious. ((james comey / fbi director)) that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the trump campaign and the russian government. ((chance seales / u.s. capitol))comey gave few other details, but members of the committee were persistent .. asking repeatedly about the trump campaign russia and investigation tactics.((rep. jim himes / d-conn.))no matter if vladimir putin kills political opponents, the new president defends, obfuscates. ((vo))by and large, democrats focused on team trump activities.and republicans zeroed in on leaks from the intel community.((rep.

. >>> jim himes of the intel committee joins us live -- >> wait, wait. call watergate? third rate burglar? >> this is like a fourth rate tweet. will it take down the president? >> such a huge ego. >> at 25% now in the gallup poll, most of that from the tweet. >> he needs help. >> we'll be back. we all need help. various: (shouting) heigh! ho! ( ♪ ) it's off to work we go! woman: on the gulf coast, new exxonmobil projects are expected to create over 45,000 jobs. and each job created by the energy industry supports two others in the community. altogether, the industry supports over 9 million jobs nationwide. these are jobs that natural gas is helping make happen, all while reducing america's emissions. energy lives here. all while reducing america's emissions. experience exciting offers on sales event is here. our most thrilling models ever. get up to $2,500 customer cash on select 2017 models for these terms. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. i just had to push one button wto join.s thing is crazy. it's like i'm in the office with you, even though

of connecticut. >> jim himes, how are you doing?d with the traffic patterns. tear down the bridges and make it eight lanes. >> it's an historic high hey. >> i don't care if they're historic. i've become a fossil, sitting there every day. >> yeah? >> every day. what are you going to do? it's your district, himes! i want to go -- sorry. >> take 95. come on. >> everybody is laughing here. >> talking about infrastructure. >> everybody is laughing here. >> exactly, infrastructure. >> 95 is the worst stretch of road in america zblin fra structure, joe. >> i pine for the day when we could talk about that famous trillion dollar infrastructure plan we've been hearing about from the white house. >> i pine for that day as well, congressman. for now we have to talk about the very thick lug, my words, not yours, who is running the house intel committee. >> what the heck? what is going on? >> what is nunes saying? have you gotten your ovaltine decoder and figured out exactly what he's saying? >> does he realize how badly he's messed up or is he s

. >> jim himes, thanks for helping us. >> thanks, rachel. >> i will say what he was just saying about these things all fit together, the part of this right now that beggars belief for me is that we are still at the end of march still learning about new contacts between trump officials, trump campaign officials, trump administration officials, new contacts, we are still learning about now with russia. if you're in the trump administration and you're sitting on contacts you know you had with russian government officials and you haven't said so by now, time is running out when it stops to feel like a scandal. it is remarkable to me that somebody could be sitting on that this deep into the story. who knows what's going to come out next? we'll be right back. but mobility itself. an autonomous-thinking vehicle protecting those inside and out. and it's the mercedes-benz of today that will help us get there. the 2017 e-class, with innovations no car has offered before. and that will change driving forever after. lease the e300 for $549 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz

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those calling for chairman nunes to recuse himself from this investigation is democratic congressman jim himesrom capitol hill. we've seen various meetings being cancelled this week by the house intelligence committee. i think some people are beginning to wonder, is the world poisoned. can the committee do its job? the committee has been put into suspended animation. yesterday's meeting is a consistent meeting every week, when we are first back in washington, it was cancelled. it was rescheduled. thursday was cancelled to. today's open hearing is the subject of con cassation and it was also cancelled. i think the way for this investigation to move forward is for chairman to share with us, democrats and republicans alike, the material here received and the reasons for his actions, not letting them know about it. that would be a start to get this investigation back on start. how common is it for people to go to the white house to a secure location to read sensitive documents? it's pretty uncommon. in the capital, we have our own offices with secure areas in which we review the most sensitive int

. >> congressman jim himes, thank you for joining us.ppreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, donald trump trying to pass his first big piece of legislation. his only problem of course are members of his own party opposed to it. and coming up, a woman who has made history in her own right has a warning for us about what is at stake in some of the republican budget cuts. i thought i was managing my moderate to severe crohn's disease. i didn't think there was anything else to talk about. but then i realized there was. so, i finally broke the silence with my doctor about what i was experiencing. he said humira is for people like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. and many achieved remission. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, a

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talking about this earlier with shane harris who broke this story at the "wall street journal" with jim himes. there's a difference between getting immunity from congress and immunity from prosecutors, it can make all the difference whether or not you go to prison. they also have to weigh those completing impairives. how willing has the justice department, how willing have prosecutors been willing to go along on requests for immunity? >> oftentimes they are not willing. the special prosecutor in watergate was against doing it for john dean. and then later on in the iran contra scandal, appoint indexer the who had the same job mike flynn had got immunity for his testimony before congress, but later on was prosecuted. he was convicted of a number of things including lying to congress. that was thrown out by an appeals court that said that somehow the trial used material that was from his testimony and therefore that undermined his verdict. you're absolutely right, it's really complicated. >> in terms of the history here, i mean, informed by that watergate history and other presidents and other

democrat from connecticut, jim himes, was on "morning joe ". he was on the intelligence committee and was asked about some of these claims of the president. >> the president either lied with this wild conspiracy theory out of breitbart, did that and set the fbi director against him or if there is something here, it is likely to be that somebody in the fbi most likely at some point had probable cause to go to a judge and say we have probable cause against somebody in trump tower and give us a warrant. >> amber, has the president, the administration, boxed itself into a corner here? >> yeah, i think so absolutely. i think with voter fraud and with this, pahrump rum presiden calling for congress to investigate something it doesn't want to touch with a ten-foot pole. these republicans are so excited for the first time in eight years to have control of washington, let's get taxes done, let's get obamacare done, that's a whole other story for how difficult those things are going to be and here they are being asked by their president to sort of shift

>> congressman jim himes, appreciate it. this is a big day. people have been waiting for this. they're hanging on your questions. i will be among them. thank you for coming on "new day." >> thank you, chris. >> appreciate it. >>> stay with cnn. this is going to be a big day. this is not hype. these questions have been paralyzing part of our political process. what will the fbi director, what will the head of the nsa finally say to get any measure of satisfaction to any of it? wolf blitzer, jake tapper, the big guns anchoring our special coverage of the house intel committee hearing with fbi director jim comey, admiral mike rogers follow him at 10:00 am eastern. our coverage starts at 9:00 am. poppy? >> british prime minister theresa may plans to trigger article 50 next week with a formal letter announcing britain's withdrawn from the european union, two-year countdown to official brexit. >>> in tennessee, there is a manhunt under way for a former teacher suspected of kidnapping one of his students. 50-year-old cummins. take a look at the girl on your screen, 15-year-old elizabe

. >>> joining us now, democratic congressman jim himes from the house intelligence committee.nks for joining us tonight. first of all, can you tell us what you were hoping to accomplish in next week's hearing, what that testimony would have been and why you believe the chairman canceled that hearing? >> sure, thanks, lawrence. i was really looking forwards to tuesday's hearing because, remember, the vast bulk of the work we do as an investigative committee in this arena is not likely to happen in public. we are dealing with classified information, very sensitive surveillance, that sort of thing. like monday's hearing, next tuesday was to be an opportunity to hear from the former director of the cia and director of national intelligence and sally yates, the deputy attorney general, all of whom would have known ant the investigation as fbi director comey told us has been on nine months. they would have known about that investigation prior to leaving office in january. this was a great opportunity for the american public to hear more and learn generally from professionals about w

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some are staying he needs to step down but jim himes didn't seem to think devin should step down. the person who has been working with. >> i would say this. i believe we have a tainted committee right now. there's no question about that. we're having people call for the committee to stand down in its investigation. i want to see the document that chairman nunes felt come pepello hold a press conference on, not talk to the ranking member on the committee and run over to the white house. it was classified information. the fact that he held a press conference on it makes me wonder. but i'm going to hold my powder dry until i've had an opportunity to look at the document. there are sirks where if there's a foreign national that's being surveilled, if he's having a conversation with a u.s. person, that there could be incidental collection but that is a masked u.s. person or they could be talking about a u.s. person, two foreign nationals talking about a foreign person. i want to see the document before venturing before say being what we should be doing next. adam shift chiff is leading

. >> democratic congressman jim himes is pushing back on the accusations and he tweeted as a member of committee on to which you've dumped this mess, i look forward to seeing your evidence, and here's republican senator susan collins. >> should he be talking about this on twitter? is this -- helpful? >> it would be more helpful if he turned over to the intelligence committee any evidence that he has. what we need to deal with is evidence, not just statements. at this point i see no evidence of what he's alleged, but i've also not seen collaboration as -- as director dna clapper also said today. >> and here are the comments by james clapper to whom senator collins is referring. we should point out that clapper's denial of any sort of wiretapping at trump tower. >> we did not include any evidence in our report, and i say our, and that's nsa, fbi, and cia with my office, the director of national intelligence that had anything that had any reflection of collusion between members of the trump campaign and the russians. there was no evidence of that included in our report. >> i understand th

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we'll speak with two democratic members of the committee, jim himes and eric swalwell. >> i don't thinkrilled with this guy's performance. >> i can't imagine. it's really a cluster. >> how obvious was it when he saidoh

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. >> so, there we have democratic congressman jim himes, a member of the house intelligence committee, pushing back against president trump's tweets this weekend that accuse former president obama of ordering wiretaps on trump tower during last year's election. joining me now, "washington post" white house correspondent jenna johnson, and "usa today" washington correspondent paul singer. great to have you both with me. again, just to point out that a spokesperson for president obama has addressed this, saying that "no white house official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the doj. as part of that practice, neither president obama nor any white house official ever ordered surveillance on any u.s. citizen. any suggestion otherwise is simply false." jenna, we heard from the congressman there saying it would be the fbi ordering a fisa request. so, is it at all plausible that any of these claims could be traced back to president obama? >> well, we just don't know. i mean, i guess there is a scenario where, you know, perhaps the president has some evidence that many

let me play for you what adam schiff and what jim himes, two powerful democrats had to say this morningut all of this. we're going to be listening -- let me parra phrase for you what he's talking about. essentially saying that the fact as schiff said, the fact that directors rebutted the claims of illegal wire tapping by president obama has something to do with the cancellation of the open hearing. trying to imply that there are seeds of doubt. what is your takeaway from this and how does tevin nunes respond? >> the post had theort yesterday, nunes cancele the most recent hearing that was supposed to involve intel members on friday just as her attorneys were informed the white house they were going to go ahead and testify even though the justice departments lawyers tried to block her from testifying. >> the white house said hey, we want her to testify. >> the white house said their silence means they're okay with it. that's another explosive allegation. there's no smoking gun but evidence that nunes didn't want something made public. >> yeah. what you see here is you have -- if you step

back at the hearing, democrat jim himes pounced: >> so it's not too far of a logical leap to concludet the assertion that you have told the congress that there was no influence on the electoral is not quite right. >> it certainly wasn't our intention to say that today because we don't have any information on that subject. that's not something that was looked at. >> reporter: republicans also raised alarm over stories and leaks of reportedly classified information and names in the investigation. >> i thought it was against the law to disseminate classified information. is it? >> yes sir, it's a serious crime. >> reporter: south carolina congressman trey gowdy went farther, warning that unless the leaks are stopped a key provision of the foreign intelligence surveillance act may not be reauthorized by congress this year. >> trust me you and i both want to see it reauthorized it's in jeopardy if we don't get it this resolved. >> reporter: the hearing hit extraordinary territory, democrats pushed on president trump's charges that president obama wiretapped him. >> with respect to the pres