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congressman jim himes, thank for you time. we'll be back in one minute with a lot more "face the nation." don't question away. s here to hp you with turning ideas into action. putting your business on the map, connecting with customers, and getting the skills to use new tools. so, in case you're looking, we've put all the ways we can help in one place. free training, tools, and small business resources are now available at google.com/grow come on! let's hide in the attic. no. in the basement. why can't we just get in the running car? are you crazy? let's hide behind the chainsaws. smart. yeah. ok. if you're in a horror movie, you make poor decisions. it's what you do. this was a good idea. shhhh. i'm being quiet. you're breathing on me! if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. let's go to the cemetery! >> brennan: we're back now with new york democratic congressman ted engelking. -- eliot engel. he is in new york this morning. good morning to you, congressman. >> good
congressman jim himes, thank for you time. we'll be back in one minute with a lot more "face the nation." don't question away. s here to hp you with turning ideas into action. putting your business on the map, connecting with customers, and getting the skills to use new tools. so, in case you're looking, we've put all the ways we can help in one place. free training, tools, and small business resources are now available at google.com/grow come on! let's hide in the attic. no. in the...
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connecticut democrat commerce been jim himes -- congress in jim himes discusses the impeachment inquiry. watch washington journal at seven clock easter this morning. join the discussion. former trump advisor george papadopoulos spoke in west palm beach florida about the origins of the counterintelligence investigation into russia and the 2016 trump campaign. papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to fbi agents about the timing and possible significance of his contacts related to u.s.-russian relations during the term presidential campaign. he served 12 days in federal prison. [applause]
connecticut democrat commerce been jim himes -- congress in jim himes discusses the impeachment inquiry. watch washington journal at seven clock easter this morning. join the discussion. former trump advisor george papadopoulos spoke in west palm beach florida about the origins of the counterintelligence investigation into russia and the 2016 trump campaign. papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to fbi agents about the timing and possible significance of his contacts related to...
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connecticut democrat jim himes shares the latest on the impeachment inquiry. watch c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 eastern. join the discussion. next, a discussion on president trump's decision to withdraw u.s. troops from syria and the impact on the region. speakers include the former state department national security council and pentagon officials from the george w. bush administration. this is about 90 minutes.
connecticut democrat jim himes shares the latest on the impeachment inquiry. watch c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 eastern. join the discussion. next, a discussion on president trump's decision to withdraw u.s. troops from syria and the impact on the region. speakers include the former state department national security council and pentagon officials from the george w. bush administration. this is about 90 minutes.
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i'll get reaction from house intelligence committee member, jim himes. and our correspondents and analysts are also standing by. >>> first, let's go to our chief white house correspondent, jim acosta. jim, mick mulvaney may have given a gift to impeachment investigators. >> reporter: he certainly did, wolf. the white house made a remarkable admission today as the acting chief of staff acknowledged in the briefing room earlier today there was a quid pro quo, tying foreign aid to ukraine to an investigation into the president's unproven conspiracy theory about the democratic national committee and the 2016 campaign. the president's legal team, i was told, was stunned by mulvaney's performance with one source telling cnn, it was not helpful. for the acting chief of staff, it was a moment of high drama as mick mulvaney concede t that the trump administration's hold on military aid in ukraine was connected to the president's desire to investigate the democratic national committee's actions during the 2016 election. a quid pro quo. >> we do that all the time wi
i'll get reaction from house intelligence committee member, jim himes. and our correspondents and analysts are also standing by. >>> first, let's go to our chief white house correspondent, jim acosta. jim, mick mulvaney may have given a gift to impeachment investigators. >> reporter: he certainly did, wolf. the white house made a remarkable admission today as the acting chief of staff acknowledged in the briefing room earlier today there was a quid pro quo, tying foreign aid to...
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joining me is democratic congressman jim himes, a member of the house intelligence committee and congressman, we do understand that there is this second whistleblower who has firsthand knowledge of the events surrounding the phone call between president trump and the leader of ukraine. what does this add to the case you're all making? >> well, good morning, john. hard to know because, of course, nobody has actually seen what this purported second whistleblower has to say. presumably that will change this week. i'm glad this individual, by the way, is going through the whistleblower process. that's what the first whistleblower did, it's the right thing to do. i've made the point to a couple of people now, i sort of get a kick out of the president's rage on twitter at adam schiff, nancy pelosi, at the democrats. as a democrat in the room i will tell you, we're like a bunch of folks in the outfield just catching constant pop flies coming from people actually in the room or in and around the president. you know, the first whistleblower certainly that was true of, the media now for weeks has been
joining me is democratic congressman jim himes, a member of the house intelligence committee and congressman, we do understand that there is this second whistleblower who has firsthand knowledge of the events surrounding the phone call between president trump and the leader of ukraine. what does this add to the case you're all making? >> well, good morning, john. hard to know because, of course, nobody has actually seen what this purported second whistleblower has to say. presumably that...
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joining us now is congressman jim himes, a member of the intelligence committee, one of the hearingshat will be hearing that deposition tomorrow. sir, thanks very much for your time tonight. >> hi, rachel. >> so we've watched the deposition schedule change a little bit and we've watched as the sort of calendar has shifted in terms of who's actually expected to turn up. do you think that the state department will try to block ambassador taylor from being there tomorrow? >> well, they may. but what's remarkable about the last couple of weeks is despite the three or four-page letter that congress got from the white house saying, we're not helping you, this is a fake inquiry, it turns out that actually state department people, retired and not retired are showing up for their depositions. i do imagine that mr. taylor will show up and i imagine that the rest of the witnesses will. obviously, we got delayed a bit because my colleague, elijah cummings' memorial service will be at the end of the this week. but things are moving along, despite that bizarre letter from the white house saying th
joining us now is congressman jim himes, a member of the intelligence committee, one of the hearingshat will be hearing that deposition tomorrow. sir, thanks very much for your time tonight. >> hi, rachel. >> so we've watched the deposition schedule change a little bit and we've watched as the sort of calendar has shifted in terms of who's actually expected to turn up. do you think that the state department will try to block ambassador taylor from being there tomorrow? >>...
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host: connecticut democrat jim himes, member of the house intelligence committee am a part of this process, he was on sunday shows yesterday. talked a little bit about timing. this is what he had to say. [video clip] >> this is no way for the republicans to defend the actions of the president here. what the chief of staff, mick mulvaney, said. no way to defend that behavior. as a result, they are attacking the process. let me spend a second on that process. the previous impeachment inquiries of nixon and clinton -- a special prosecutor star in the case of nexen by different special prosecutor. we are doing that now and an investigation does not happen in the light of day. there will be open hearings every transcript after classified information will be released publicly. this will ultimately be all out there for the american people to see and with the american people will see as there is not one word of testimony, written or spoken, which contradicts the notion that the president used the assets of the united states military aid, white house meeting, to advance his political interest of ge
host: connecticut democrat jim himes, member of the house intelligence committee am a part of this process, he was on sunday shows yesterday. talked a little bit about timing. this is what he had to say. [video clip] >> this is no way for the republicans to defend the actions of the president here. what the chief of staff, mick mulvaney, said. no way to defend that behavior. as a result, they are attacking the process. let me spend a second on that process. the previous impeachment...
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host: congressman jim himes back at our table, a democrat.alk about how the impeachment inquiry was launched and how it is being conducted. here is the senate majority leader. >> now that speaker pelosi has crumbled and allowed her left-wing impeachment caucus to dictate the house's actions. i don't think many of us were hoping to witness a clinic in terms of fairness or due process. even by all partisan standards, democrats have found new ways to lower the bar. this is about the most consequential process the house of representatives could possibly engage in, overruling american voters and nullifying an election. surely, any such process much -- must be conducted with fairness and transparency. it must be held to the most exacting of standards and yet, house democrats have wasted no time throwing fairness and precedent to the wind. already, they have denied their republican counterparts certain minority rights like equal subpoena power, that republicans provided democrats during the clinton impeachment. already they have made clear that pres
host: congressman jim himes back at our table, a democrat.alk about how the impeachment inquiry was launched and how it is being conducted. here is the senate majority leader. >> now that speaker pelosi has crumbled and allowed her left-wing impeachment caucus to dictate the house's actions. i don't think many of us were hoping to witness a clinic in terms of fairness or due process. even by all partisan standards, democrats have found new ways to lower the bar. this is about the most...
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congressman jim himes, we'll be following this as slow as it takes.y have pioneered election sbees , interference, but as we head closer to 2020 they are no longer alone. the fbi says china and iran are also getting in on the game. up next, why disinformation is a threat to democracy and what we can do about it. "morning joe" will be right back. can do about it. "morning joe" will be right back. through the at&t network, edge-to-edge intelligence gives you the power to...
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i spoke with democratic congressman jim himes before we went on air. >> how consequential is that confirmation from him given his firsthand knowledge of so many pieces of this puzzle? >> yeah. anderson, i don't want to get into what was said behind closed doors but colonel vindman's opening statement was made available. i want to downplay the importance of the quid pro quo. quid pro quo is what the defenders of the president are saying is essential for the president to have been guilty of something. it's not. you know, people have read the transcript. we know that the president tried to pressure a foreign, new and vulnerable president to do his political dirty work. so, no quid pro quo is required. obviously, a quid pro quo makes the situation more serious, but i would also point out, anderson, that the chief of staff, mick mulvaney went before the cameras and basically admitted to a quid pro quo. the many of the witnesses, and i say this based on the opening statements made approximate public by those witnesses. many witnesses have pointed in the direction of the notion that military aid, a m
i spoke with democratic congressman jim himes before we went on air. >> how consequential is that confirmation from him given his firsthand knowledge of so many pieces of this puzzle? >> yeah. anderson, i don't want to get into what was said behind closed doors but colonel vindman's opening statement was made available. i want to downplay the importance of the quid pro quo. quid pro quo is what the defenders of the president are saying is essential for the president to have been...
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i spoke about this and more with democratic congressman and house intelligence committee member jim himescongressman, what do you make of "the washington post" reporting the idea that vladimir putin might have helped color president trump's view of ukraine? it does seem another example of something that at this point is shocking but i guess not surprisi surprising. >> yeah, i read that story and i guess i'm not surprised. i didn't happen to be in that particular moment of the temperature. i'm not at all surprised if that is true. if vladimir putin has every interest in causing our president to believe that ukraine, apparently all the things that the president believes, it's a corrupt country beyond repair, if putin can have the president thinking and the president of grhungary has its n reasons, it can drive a wedge and allow putin to succeed in controlling half of that country, retain crimea and do whatever he wants in ukraine. >> at least part of what the post is reporting comes from what george kent told congress an investigators last week, you said you weren't there for that part of i
i spoke about this and more with democratic congressman and house intelligence committee member jim himescongressman, what do you make of "the washington post" reporting the idea that vladimir putin might have helped color president trump's view of ukraine? it does seem another example of something that at this point is shocking but i guess not surprisi surprising. >> yeah, i read that story and i guess i'm not surprised. i didn't happen to be in that particular moment of the...
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what else do you need or do you believe that texts are enough for jim himes for connecticut to vote yes on articles of impeachment about this activity and on what basis? >> well, i don't want to, you know, we haven't seen any articles, we've seen a fact pattern here and it's not a disputed fact pattern, it's a really ugly fact pattern. there's one piece, chris, though, that we need to know more about and i think we'll learn more about next week. you had the apparent withholding of $400 million in military aid to a country under attack by the russians. you have the compromise of the particularly classified server in the white house. i don't know if that's illegal or not. it's pretty ugly because it looks like a coverup. the third thing just to answer your question here, it looks like an ambassador may have been fired because she wasn't going along with the con, and that's a piece of it that we need to know a lot more about. and, again, if this ambassador was fired because she didn't go along with what rudy giuliani wanted, number one, that's appalling in and of itself. number two, i'm ju
what else do you need or do you believe that texts are enough for jim himes for connecticut to vote yes on articles of impeachment about this activity and on what basis? >> well, i don't want to, you know, we haven't seen any articles, we've seen a fact pattern here and it's not a disputed fact pattern, it's a really ugly fact pattern. there's one piece, chris, though, that we need to know more about and i think we'll learn more about next week. you had the apparent withholding of $400...
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joining me is democratic congressman jim himes on the intelligence committee and heard ambassador taylor'sny. you were asked yesterday, congressman, if your jaw was still on the floor after hearing that and you responded, still there. what do you mean? >> well, john, it was pretty startling testimony. when the ambassador got done with his opening statement which is now public so we can talk about it under the rules, you could hear a pin drop in the room. it was some of the most detailed, specific testimony. it wasn't some of the most. it was the most detailed and specific testimony we have heard in these many depositions about the holding up of military aid. and not just military aid but a meeting in the white house. that line still resonates with me. it's in the opening statement where the ambassador says that ambassador sondland says that everything -- everything is contingent. i know we're having this long conversation about what the definition of a quid pro quo is, but there's no question from his testimony that everything in the words of ambassador sondland are contingent on the ukrai
joining me is democratic congressman jim himes on the intelligence committee and heard ambassador taylor'sny. you were asked yesterday, congressman, if your jaw was still on the floor after hearing that and you responded, still there. what do you mean? >> well, john, it was pretty startling testimony. when the ambassador got done with his opening statement which is now public so we can talk about it under the rules, you could hear a pin drop in the room. it was some of the most detailed,...
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jim himes, on the intelligence committee, he's a democrat from connecticut. very in the mix on these investigationing. he wants to hear from him. so we'll have to see, is that a separate investigation from whatever impeachment inquiry they're do specifically on ukraine or end up expanding it to include something like these allegations we're seeing here today. >> lastly, richard, back to you. circumventing official government channels, sweeping aside procedures. should this be part of articles of impeachment? >> well, what we see here is illegal conduct by, or an attempt at illegal conduct by rudy giuliani. we don't know exactly what the president's role is, but the president seems to be encouraging this. we could include this, that articles of impeachment. i have to say, there already are so many examples of corruption on the part of this president. obstruction of justice and other criminal conduct that we can investigate. there are so many examples of corruption on the part of this president. we can investigate every in the next month or two to do that. they
jim himes, on the intelligence committee, he's a democrat from connecticut. very in the mix on these investigationing. he wants to hear from him. so we'll have to see, is that a separate investigation from whatever impeachment inquiry they're do specifically on ukraine or end up expanding it to include something like these allegations we're seeing here today. >> lastly, richard, back to you. circumventing official government channels, sweeping aside procedures. should this be part of...
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. >> that's what congressman jim himes was saying this morning is one of his key questions, to hear from what was it that led to her removal. was it she wouldn't go along with it? >> the president's line, what was it, certain things are going to happen to her or something in that call. >> thank you very much. it did not take long for the white house to dismiss this second whistleblower. joe johns joins us this morning outside the white house. even though some of the circumstances here are different, again, a firsthand knowledge being one of them, still being dismissed by the administration? >> right. well the bottom line from stephanie grisham over here at the white house is that the president did nothing wrong, so it doesn't matter how many whistleblowers there are out there. also important to say the president tweeted just this morning once again, discrediting this second whistleblower. you know he has a history of that goes all the way back even before robert mueller who he went after with a vengeance, the president this morning writing the party san whistleblower, apparently referrin
. >> that's what congressman jim himes was saying this morning is one of his key questions, to hear from what was it that led to her removal. was it she wouldn't go along with it? >> the president's line, what was it, certain things are going to happen to her or something in that call. >> thank you very much. it did not take long for the white house to dismiss this second whistleblower. joe johns joins us this morning outside the white house. even though some of the...
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let's bring in-house intel committee member jim himes in the thick of all of this. he was in the briefing today with the intel community's i. g. he heard what volker had to say. congressman, great to have you and thank you. so what can you tell us that is of importance to the audience about what you learned from the i.g. today? >> i can't get into the details of what we learned and this was sort of a follow-up meeting because remember we heard from him when the so-called transcript had not yet been released so he wasn't able to talk about the substance of this. all he would talk about was the process he followed. look, what's becoming clear here i sort of chuckle watching my twitter feed as the president attacks adam schiff over and over again. the problem the president has is of course not with adam schiff but with the people around him including the whistle-blower and i don't anything more than you do on this possibility of a second whistle-blower, but of course there were leaks to "the new york times" and leaks to "the washington post" from people that were clear
let's bring in-house intel committee member jim himes in the thick of all of this. he was in the briefing today with the intel community's i. g. he heard what volker had to say. congressman, great to have you and thank you. so what can you tell us that is of importance to the audience about what you learned from the i.g. today? >> i can't get into the details of what we learned and this was sort of a follow-up meeting because remember we heard from him when the so-called transcript had...
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. >> congressman jim himes, thank you very much for explaining the position of your committee today.talk to you. >> thank you, alisyn. >>> all right. explosive allegations against former "today" show anchor matt lauer. a former colleague is now accusing him of rape. there is a new response from nbc. we have the details next. i can't believe it. what? that our new house is haunted by casper the friendly ghost? hey jill! hey kurt! movies? i'll get snacks! no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on our car insurance with geico. i got snacks! ohhh, i got popcorn, i got caramel corn, i got kettle corn. am i chewing too loud? believe it! geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. ♪ do you recall, not long ago ♪ we would walk on the sidewalk ♪ ♪ all around the wind blows ♪ we would only hold on to let go ♪ ♪ blow a kiss into the sun ♪ we need someone to lean on ♪ blow a kiss into the sun ♪ we needed somebody to lean on ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ all we need is someone to lean on ♪ we're oscar mayer deli fresh your very first sandwich,m... your mammoth masterpiece. a
. >> congressman jim himes, thank you very much for explaining the position of your committee today.talk to you. >> thank you, alisyn. >>> all right. explosive allegations against former "today" show anchor matt lauer. a former colleague is now accusing him of rape. there is a new response from nbc. we have the details next. i can't believe it. what? that our new house is haunted by casper the friendly ghost? hey jill! hey kurt! movies? i'll get snacks! no, i...
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. >> we just had jim himes on from the intel community. he said respect the process. don't rush to judgment. but again, some of the evidence is out in plain sight. and so if nancy pelosi believes that all of this, that is happening right now, is obstruction of justice, that's an article of impeachment right there. >> article 3 with richard nixon. abby, kaitlan, thanks for your reporting. >>> we are following breaking news out of germany. two people are dead after a shooting near a synagogue in central germany. of course, today is yom kippur, one of the high holy days. let's get to international diplomatic editor nic robertson. what do you know? >> a day when you could expect more people to be around synagogues and an average day. police say they've got one suspect in custody. an eyewitness that we've spoken to who was driving down the street from his business, past a synagogue, and he said he was just a few meters from the synagogue and saw a man dressed in camouflage clothing wearing what this witness describes as a steel helmet. the man was holding an automatic weap
. >> we just had jim himes on from the intel community. he said respect the process. don't rush to judgment. but again, some of the evidence is out in plain sight. and so if nancy pelosi believes that all of this, that is happening right now, is obstruction of justice, that's an article of impeachment right there. >> article 3 with richard nixon. abby, kaitlan, thanks for your reporting. >>> we are following breaking news out of germany. two people are dead after a shooting...
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i'm joined by republican congressman lee zeldin and congressman jim himes. congressman himes, let's start with you. we heard from ambassador marie yovanovitch, somebody who testified to your committee. despite the fact that the white house ordered her not to do so, tell us how important is she to this inquiry. >> she's very important to one of the parts of the inquiry. apart from the president holding up aid to ukraine, expecting to get a commitment that there would be an investigation of his political opponent, the moving of that transcript to the secret server, the third piece that's deeply concerning is a united states ambassador who mere aske her tour for a year, is then summarily told to get on the next plane to washington to be removed from her post for what f appears to be giuliani's effort with his various minions to achieve whatever aims giuliani was trying to achieve in ukraine. this has nothing to do with the united states foreign policy interests, but the president's personal interests and rudy giuliani's interests. she's very important. she's an
i'm joined by republican congressman lee zeldin and congressman jim himes. congressman himes, let's start with you. we heard from ambassador marie yovanovitch, somebody who testified to your committee. despite the fact that the white house ordered her not to do so, tell us how important is she to this inquiry. >> she's very important to one of the parts of the inquiry. apart from the president holding up aid to ukraine, expecting to get a commitment that there would be an investigation of...
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connecticut democrat jim himes shares the latest on the impeachment inquiry. watch c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 eastern. join the discussion. next, a discussion on president trump's decision to withdraw u.s. troops from syria and the impact on the region. speakers include the former state department national security council and pentagon officials from the george w. bush administration. this is about 90 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> good morning. >> >> good morning. can everybody hear me? ok. my name is ali rogin. i'm with the pbs news hour covering foreign affairs and as a journalist, i want to say i'm grateful to the hudson institute for convening this panel to discuss what is a rapidly developing, as we all know, situation on the syrian-turkish border. without further ado i'm going to introduce these folks who you all probably already know. to my left is the founder of mb long and associate an international legal and advisory firm from 2007-2009 she served as the first woman confirmed by the senate as assistant secretary of defense for i
connecticut democrat jim himes shares the latest on the impeachment inquiry. watch c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 eastern. join the discussion. next, a discussion on president trump's decision to withdraw u.s. troops from syria and the impact on the region. speakers include the former state department national security council and pentagon officials from the george w. bush administration. this is about 90 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> good morning. >> >> good...
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congressman jim himes is on the house intelligence committee. >> people around the president, professionals who are in the oval office who are in the situation room, are watching what is happening and are finally saying, my god, this cannot happen anymore. >> reporter: while he continues to publicly describe his conversation with zelensky as perfect, cbs news has learned in private president trump is playing the blame game telling republican lawmakers he only called by energy secretary rick perry asked him to. >> not once, not once, as god is my witness, not once was a biden name, not the former vice president, not his son, ever mentioned. >> reporter: in a statement, perry's spokesperson said that these absolutely encouraged and supported president trump to talk to zelensky about energy, security, and economic development. now the democrats have subpoenaed him for documents related to communications and travel to u.k. it's part of the bigger effort to get information from the white house and the committees that issued that subpoena set a deadline, anthony, for october 18th. >> all right. t
congressman jim himes is on the house intelligence committee. >> people around the president, professionals who are in the oval office who are in the situation room, are watching what is happening and are finally saying, my god, this cannot happen anymore. >> reporter: while he continues to publicly describe his conversation with zelensky as perfect, cbs news has learned in private president trump is playing the blame game telling republican lawmakers he only called by energy...
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host: connecticut democrat jim himes, member of the house intelligence committee am a part of this processas on sunday shows yesterday. talked a little bit about timing. this is what he had to say. [video clip] >> this is no way for the republicans to defend the actions of the president here. what the chief of staff, mick mulvaney, said. no way to defend that behavior. as a result, they are attacking the process. let me spend a second on that process. the previous impeachment inquiries of nixon and clinton -- a special prosecutor star in the case of nexen by different special prosecutor. we are doing that now and an investigation does not happen in the light of day. there will be open hearings every transcript after classified information will be released publicly. this will ultimately be all out there for the american people to see and with the american people will see as there is not one word of testimony, written or spoken, which contradicts the notion that the president used the assets of the united states military aid, white house meeting, to advance his political interest of getting
host: connecticut democrat jim himes, member of the house intelligence committee am a part of this processas on sunday shows yesterday. talked a little bit about timing. this is what he had to say. [video clip] >> this is no way for the republicans to defend the actions of the president here. what the chief of staff, mick mulvaney, said. no way to defend that behavior. as a result, they are attacking the process. let me spend a second on that process. the previous impeachment inquiries of...
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jim himes sits on the house intelligence committee. feel this is going to be about substance. is he right. >> he is dead wrong about that. of course, what you have seen in the last couple weeks republicans talking exliewsklexclusively about the process. the reason they are talking about process they don't want to defend the substance of the president of the united states squeezing a foreign ruler to investigate his political. brian: that's what you think. >> that's not what i think. that's what's happening. the funny thing about this, of course, is the republicans have said you need a vote. you need to make the rules really clear. and you need to give the president rights in this process to have the president's lawyer present ands, guess what, what's being voted on today is a vote on the house of representatives. it describes the rules. and it gives all kinds of rights to the president's lawyers. and of course surprise, surprise, the republicans are saying well, that's just not good enough. even though this is exactly what they have be
jim himes sits on the house intelligence committee. feel this is going to be about substance. is he right. >> he is dead wrong about that. of course, what you have seen in the last couple weeks republicans talking exliewsklexclusively about the process. the reason they are talking about process they don't want to defend the substance of the president of the united states squeezing a foreign ruler to investigate his political. brian: that's what you think. >> that's not what i think....