an interview with jim hoffa just now. naomi says totally right.ctions ae/* /* e elections, eliza says fox's local camera people are unions workers. so some of the employees that work for fox. >> just california, for example, this year california there was this gridlock in california that was very, very similar to what is happening here in washington, d.c., republicans control the legislature and not compromise on anything with governor brown to try to get new revenue and spending cuts as well. the voters this year not only endorsed the initiative which would raise taxes or some taxes in order to get some new revenue. they approved that. but they also cleaned house, threw the republicans out of the legislature and gave the democrats a veto-proof majority or filibuster majority whatever. to get things done. you see the people who are really the obstacles to any progress, you know, like in michigan, you have got to go in and clean house. >> yeah. >> the voters of california saw that. you couldn't get anything done with those republicans in charge. >>

jim hoffa, what is wrong with giving woe ining workers a choi?s. with the majority of votes, that should be the people that control in that particular company. we have done this successfully all across the country. those states that do not have right to work, the ones that do have right to work, like mississippi, or texas, end up being the last in education, the last in people making -- having good jobs. we don't want that here in michigan. we want to create good jobs here. we don't want a race for the bottom. this will basically reinforce the fact that people make less money who are not in the union. so we really don't -- this is out to discriminate against unions, to make it so people don't want to join unions. what we want to do is now is to encourage that. >> you want to bring jobs to michigan, you want to bring business to michigan, but the thing is, you know, some businesses won't hire or even work with some of the unions because in these times they simply cannot afford it. and proponents of right to work, they say like bobby say this attra

president jim hoffa from the teamsters was here on the program with us on monday.hem said of course they're outraged by what happened in michigan. michigan just forcing through the republicans in the legislature, forcing through this right-to-work legislation. signed into law immediately. they're outraged by this. they vowed to continue the fight in michigan. and expect to have to continue that fight in other states. what is next? we're going to go out to michigan and say hello to karla swift who is the head of the michigan state afl-cio. hey, karla good to have you with us this morning. >> caller: good morning, bill. good to be with you. >> bill: so governor rick snyder says it is your fault karla, because you guys put this initiative on the ballot that would have enshrined collective bargaining and if you hadn't done that, they wouldn't have stuck with you right to work legislations so it is all your fault, huh? >> that's an interesting spin on the facts but the fact is that governor snyder really lied to michigan citizens for two and a half years. he said over a

teamsters head jim hoffa lower wages. >> this is out to discriminate against unions, to discourage peoplejoining unions. >> an analysis by the detroit free press says neither side is supported by economic data. michigan's unions have failed to deliver higher wages or job security. now it's 36th. the 6th worst in the country. paper says most employers are looking for the the cheapest ones. and michigan is 36th out of president obama visited his perspective: these so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics, they have everything to do with michigan's right to work laws were approved without any committee hearings or other public input. they apply to public and well as private sector workers. the exceptions are police and firefighters. >> there is one injured. that was transported, there are two fatalities. >> how are you continuing the inside investigation? >> there are 100 officers. they are carefully searching the mall for anybody else that could be injured. we will certainly search this entire mall. until everybody has been determined. we have already determined. w

our nation's camtol brought to you by the international brotherhood of teamsters under president jim hoffatter because of their good work. find out more about their good work at teamster teamster.org. chris orr, a film critic for "the atlantic." he is saying "zero dark 30," not out yet most places in this country. he calls it the best film of 2012. hey, chris. good to see you this morning? >> good to be back, bill. thank you. >> bill: there have been a lot of good movies this year, i think. >> it has been an nonyl good year. >> how many movies do you see a week? >> it varies but two or three most weeks. >> bill: really? not as bad as i thought? >> four some weeks and then i see one. so many movies come out. there are a lot that it's really impossible to keep up. >> i saw "lincoln" recently. terrific movie. i mentioned "silver lining playbook" which i didn't loch, but it was good. i would love to see zat"zero dark 30." there is "skyfall" on and on? good movies. "zero dark 30" only played in two cities. so you can sneak in under 2012. why do you say it's the best of the year? >> it's a reall

hoffa. jim, thank you so much for taking out the time to talk to us "the war room." >> thank you very much. great to be on your show. >> jennifer: i appreciate -- because i know you were there today at the capitol. what was it like for you? >> well, we had thousands and thousands of union people from all unions, teamsters uaw building trades and everybody was outraged with what's going on. michigan is basically the most unionized state in the country. and for the governor to pull this, you know, with a lame duck session of the legislature not even trusting the new legislature to do this so fast with no hearings really was an outrage and people were yelling and screaming and demonstrating against it. and basically they're outraged, at a minimum this should have been put to a vote of all of the people of michigan. you know, if he really wanted to do that. what's incredible is he was really saying this is not on his agenda. and all of a sudden in five days with the lame duck session of the state le