joining us is jim hyerczyk and ira epstein. jim, bullish, bearish with gold through the end of the year? >> bearish gold in the short-term. i think we will see some backing and filling around the $1,000 level until it can build a base, and then i'm looking for abolish move towards the end of the year. the market needs a little bit of direction from the dollar. i think to get its boost. and from a technical side it seems to be a little bit hesitant around this $1,000 level. usually it has a stronger run whether it crosses major price thresholds. so in the short-term i would like to see a base built and i would look to be a buyer on dips so i would have to call it bearish short-term. >> how about it, ira, you bearish in the short-term. >> today i bought gold for clients on recommendations and i'm thinking tonight i'm taking some profit. and i don't like trading that short-term. it should have popped today. silver is on the rise and gold isn't on the run and i thought gold would run today and it didn't and what do you. >> on the po