was worst month of the year, here to tell us pete najarian, jim iuorio. don't know how long the bonds will keep falling but interest rates may be headed for 5%, they were up 12 basis points today. this is not good for stocks. where are we going on this? >> it seem like we're going higher, until we see a reason we should not keep going higher, and you have to remember there is a lot of different things right now. rates themselves they are connected with the algorithms and walking in lockstep. particularly with sell side, you see it in front of us, whether or not you want to look at different parts of the market, utilities is great. look at where they were in august, and now. it is been a run. from the time we got that 10 year over 4%, at beginning of aus, it has been sticky, it stuck there now we continue to see that selling, including today, utilities getting hammered. larry: jim iuorio, interesting energy is getting hammered. fossil fuels. and i notice that rig count has come down, energy oil prices are high. whether they get to 100 or not we'll see. but

we'll have pete najarian and jim iuorio, i' nice footwork.ing live sports never used to be this easy. now you can stream all your games like it's nothing. yes! [ cheers ] yeah! woho! running up and down that field looks tough. it's a pitch. get way more into what you're into when you stream on the xfinity 10g network. larry: so i'm worried we have a new normal. in the stock market, interest rates going up and bonds and stock prices down. september just ended. was worst month of the year, here to tell us pete najarian, jim iuorio. welcome back, pete, i don't know how long the bonds will keep falling but interest rates may be headed for 5%, they were up 12 basis points today. this is not good for stocks. where are we going on this? >> it seem like we're going higher, until we see a reason we should not keep going higher, and you have to remember there is a lot of different things right now. rates themselves they are connected with the algorithms and walking in lockstep. particularly with sell side, you see it in front of us, whether or not you