jim john kuhn, nuclear weapons program -- kim jong-un, nuclear weapons program, miniaturized warheads, enough bombs in produced to disarm material from his reactors, so we are getting closer and closer to that technical threshold where, once they have the capability to either threaten directly south korea, japan, or even guam or even alaska or the west coast of the united states, quite apart from other allies erased asia as well. charlie: it is interesting how they play this out. the chinese should have probably seen this moment coming, because the president said to me in an interview, president obama, every times they fail, they learn something. they get closer to where they want to be. they had to know that was coming. ,t has been small and nuanced small nuances, but not a lot of effort to figure it out. they have reasons as to why they have certain interests. they don't want to see south korea take over and become close to their border. they don't want to see refugees pulling in across the border. a lot of other considerations they have, but north korea having a nuclear weapon has