massey. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. mast. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. matsui. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. macbeth. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. mccarthy. >> jordan. >> jordan. [ applause ] mccall. >> jordan. >> jordan. mcclain. jordan. >> jordan. mcclellan. >> hakeem jeffreys. >> jeffries. >> mcclintock. >> jordan. >> jordan. mccollum. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. mccormick. >> jordan. >> jordan. mcgarvey. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. mcgovern. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. mchenry. >> jordan. >> jordan. meeks. >> with pride, hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. menendez. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. meng. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. meuser. jordan. mfume. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. miller of illinois. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. miller of ohio. >> jordan. >> jordan. miller of west virginia. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. miller meeks. jordan. mills. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. molinaro. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. molinar. >> jordan. >> jordan. mooney. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. moore of alabama. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. >> moore of utah. >> jordan. >> jor

that is not what jim jordan and the jordan forces wanted him to do. they wanted him to vote present but he voted for mccarthy. that is essentially a no vote on jordan. the next vote that we're going to be dipping in for will be congressman ken buck, another nay on jordan. his issue also different, kasie hunt, again, not a moderate against jordan, ken buck a very conservative republican from colorado, his issue is -- >> elections and whether or not joe biden actually won the election fair and square. big picture, jake, i just think we are watching the formal installation of donald trump. there have been so many ways in which this has happened, but this is a moment crystallizing it for me, as the current singular entity republican the republican party, this is an institution whose glass doors were broken. there were gun shots fired outside this chamber. the members had to evacuate in gas masks on january 6th of 2021, when a pro-trump mob stormed the place and as we were discussing before, jim jordan was and jamie reported about his insfl involvement in

our friend and colleague jim jordan is a patriot. is an american first warrior who wins the toughest of fights. going after corruption and delivering accountable at the highest levels of government on behalf of, we, the people. jim is the voice of the american people who have felt voiceless for far too long. whether as judiciary chairman, conservative leader, or representative for his constituents in west central ohio, whether on the wrestling mat or in the committee room, jim jordan is strategic, scrappy, tough, and principled! he is a mentor, a worker, and, above all, he is a fighter. the american people know, we know that jim jordan is a winner on behalf of the american people! almost ten years ago, many of us sat with our colleague jim jordan in this very chamber. when prime minister netanyahu delivered his historic joint address, which some of our colleagues across the aisle shamefully boycotted. b.b. pointed out in this very chamber, we serve under the watchful gaze of moses. he said, quote, overlooking all of us in this chambe

a supporter of jim jordan. would bring the number of defections that jordan could afford on the first ballot down, obviously, a little bit. just look how this is going to play out alphabetically. these are the republicans we are keeping an eye on here. this is the big list. a lot of these are republicans who just haven't said -- maybe they haven't been tracked down by reporters. they haven't said anything publically. a lot from this big list we do think aren't on the fence and probably are going to be easy jordan votes. on the other hand, there's a lot on this list, starting with don bacon. don bacon from nebraska, from the congressional district in nebraska -- nebraska, they do the electoral votes in the presidential election by congressional district. bacon's from the district in nebraska that voted for joe biden, voted for joe biden by seven points. bacon has been saying, he is a no. he will be a no on jim jordan. right away, you could have a vote against jordan very early on the republican side. you have ke

burgess. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. burlison. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. bush. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. calvert. >> jordan. >> jordan. cammack. >> jordan. >> jordan. caraveo. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. >> carbajal. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. cardenas. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. >> carey. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. >> carl. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. >> carson. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. >> carter of georgia. >> jim jordan. >> jordan. carter of louisiana. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. carter of texas. jordan. cartwright. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. >> casar. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. case. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. casten. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. >> castor of florida. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. >> castro of texas. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. chavez-deremer. mchenry. cherfilus-mccormick. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. >> chu. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. ciscomani. >> jordan. >> jordan. clark of massachusetts. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. clarke of new york. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. cleaver. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. cline.

massie: mccarthy is behind jim jordan. he had a lot of people who were going to vote for him who didn't vote for jordan, he'll talk to them. if mccarthy is behind jordan and scalise is bind jordan. reporter: do you think he can cut deals with new york delegation, with thaings care about? mr. massie: this is the reason jordan is the only viable speaker candidate we have. he's the only one who can get elected without cutting deals. that was the demise of kevin mccarthy. i supported mccarthy but he had so many arrangements and deals they became almost mutually exclusive. but jordan has gotten this far without a single deal, he has a plan to keep us from getting into a shutdown. he's the only one who can reset the expecting as that had been set earlier with conservatives. that's that's why i think he's the only viable candidate we have. i think he's going to get there this week. thank you. host: kentucky republican tom massie on the floor of the house steps following the speaker vote earlier today. one round of voting occurred

what do you think, jim jordan speaker-designate nature. caller: we know about jim jordan. not going to go through. what we need to get the congressional leaders to understand they are playing with human lives. people are dying. and they they have the audacity on the tv show. it's ridiculous. we are not america great the way our congressional leaders are acting towards the president. this is a sad case at this time. host: take a republican call from mansfield, ohio, this is mary from mansfield, ohio. mary, you are on c-span, what do you think of jim jordan? does he represent you? mary, you have to turn down the volume on your tv. mary, are you with us? sandra, democrat, democrat, is that jim jordan's district? >> he is too radical he is a trump man. we fired trump on election and he still don't believe he's fired. he needs to go on and let another republican do it. host: in about 15 minutes, we are going to go to new hampshire to the g.o.p. committee gathering of all the candidates and waiting on the democrats here in the house to hold a press conference and republicans to

and i anticipate he's not going to votes for jim jordan again. and then we're close to the end anyway. >> whitman. jordan. womack, scalise. yakum, jordan. zinke, jordan. >> okay. so there we go. he was -- lost 20 of his fellow house republicans, congressman jordan, yesterday. and as we did the math, we noted that he lost an additional three today, picked up one. said it was a net loss of two. and indeed you see on the board there scalise got seven, mccarthy got five, others got ten. that's a net loss of 22. the math checks out. >> it does. >> even though that wasn't my strong suit in high school or college. that's 22 nos, 22 nos, and again, as we anticipated, congressman jim jordan did worse on this ballot. and the desire for why jim jordan called for this vote remains a mystery to me. if he calls for a third ballot, i anticipate he'll do even worse on that one. what's going to happeners david? >> well -- to happen, david? >> well, now, he's crossed the threshold. he has a deeper hole, more nos than kevin mccarthy had in 15 rounds of trying to bec

take us behind the curtain of what has been happening in the past 24 hours when it comes to jim jordan's with operation -- whip operation. guest: there's a campaign by conservatives to get mr. jordan over the top. a lot of pressure from conservative media, conservative lawmakers to back him on the floor. there is the sense that oftentimes the more moderate members do tend to fold when push comes to shove. this is going to be an important test case for that. there are folks who are uneasy about mr. jordan, how it will play into -- there's been a lot of members who have blushed at the tactics that have been used in this campaign. it will be an interesting test case to see how this plays out on the floor, if those moderate members -- host: we will all of together in about 20 minutes here. anthony of politico, congressional reporter, we will let you get back to your reporting. guest: thank you. host: we are asking for your thoughts ahead of this vote to potentially elect the 56th speaker of the house of ribs and this. 202-748-8921 for publicans, -- for republicans, 202-748-8922 for democrats

americans want jim jordan. a lot of the representatives don't care what the american people have to say about it. >> kevin mccarthy only lost votes for nine rounds and wasn't until the 12th of round. jim jordan has 2/3 of republicans. it is better to smear him than to tell your constituents that you don't want to vote for the person and continue to represent the special interests. >> heading the wrong way. >> he lost it for nine rounds and jim jordan was voted on three rounds. 14-20 members and folks want to report that jim jordan has no path to victory after two rounds, now three rounds. if we keep voting, he will be elected speaker. >> this is bigger than us. we are offering ourselves on this thing. that needs to be made clear. not about the 435 but about the eight of us saying this is what we'll do. [indiscernible question] >> work with the democrats? >> that is an option. hakeem jeffries is on record of the nine multiple elections -- why would he have that working in secret why would you disclose that to th

"usa today" did a profile piece on jim jordan in the paper today. who is jim jordan? he entered the house in 2007 as a conservative bomb thrower who was a thorn in the sides of g.o.p. leadership. he's a founding member of the ultra conservative freedom caucus, a key faction of house republicans that haunted mccarthy and forced him to placate to the right flank of his conference throughout his speakership. jordan served as freedom caucus' first chair and remains a member of that group as well. little bit about him in today's "usa today." after the first round of voting concluded, members left the house floor and many of them talked to reporters outside of the capitol steps. republicans, democrats, including the democratic leader, hakeem jeffries. here's what he had to tell reporters. mr. jeffries: the situation in the house of representatives right now is unreal. unbelievable. and unacceptable. the american people need the house of representatives reopened. so we can go about getting things done for everyday americans and solving problems for hardworking american taxpa

some of these members are absolutely opposed to jim jordan. i talked to one member last night who indicated they thought how steve scalise was treated by the jordan people was disqualifying, so based on my conversation with that member they didn't think they would ever get that particular member. but one wonders, again, this is being played live on the field, this is like a sporting event, you don't know what is truly going to happen until they go to that final gun. until they blow that whistle, this vote is live. this vote is hot and those members could be persuaded, are they persuadeable, that is an unknown. that would be the test of jim jordan and his power potentially if he's going to be an effective speaker of the house to be able to bring those people across the finish line at the last minute. that was one of the knocks that mario dias-bilart said after steve scalise got the nomination the other day, jim jordan threw his support to steve scalise and the jordan people didn't follow. how strong a leader is he? that tells the level of contro

it was always kind known within the caucus and the democratic caucus that jim jordan was the threat. >> this is like high school in a way because there's also this bad blood between mccarthy and scalise and there's bad blood between jordan and scalise and who likes whom and who can get along with whom and who's going to help you get elected? and i think you're right about mccarthy. i think mccarthy's kind of sitting back and saying, you know, i've got about as many votes as jim jordan did -- >> oh, we've got more. >> right. and i'm not, you know, and i'm not the speaker so there's no solution to this problem other than going in a totally different direction. >> but the issue -- you're right about all those players and the relationships, but what is being put on display for the american people is the republican party incapable of governing. that is what is being put on display and yes, this is a problem for the republican party to solve, but it's obviously impacting every american no matter which party you're in because the house of representatives is not open for business and you saw

james. >> donalds. >> donalds. >>> that is 14 against jim jordan. 14. again, he is doing worse. >> jayapal. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. >> that is hakeem jeffries for hakeem jeffries. that is the reason for the applause. >> johnson of georgia. >> jeffries. >> jeffries. johnson of louisiana. >> jordan. >> jordan. johnson of ohio. >> jordan. >> jordan. johnson of south dakota. >> jordan. >> jordan. jordan. >> jordan. [ applause ] >> jordan. >> jordan. joyce of pennsylvania. >> jordan. >> jordan. ken loggerdeux. >> jordan. >> captor? >> jeffries. >> cain of new jersey. >> mccarthy. >> that is another loss. >> tom kean of new jersey is another moderate republican of a biden district who had voted for jordan twice. now, he is gone. that is 15 votes against. and now we have mike kelly of pennsy pennsylvania. >> kelly of pennsylvania. >> scalise. >>> scalise, and 16 against, and we want to know what jen kiggins of virginia does. >> and now, kiggins of virginia. >> mchenry. >> mchenry. ki kildee. >>> so a net 17 against jordan and throwing it back to

jim jordan, i think he's not the right man for the job. maybe scalise. or somebody else. but definitely not jim sexual crazed man jordan. host: press corps outside of capitol hill got a chance to hear from representative tim burchett of tennessee. about the efforts of today. the vote from today. here he is from earlier. mr. burchett: it's just like 45 day c.r.. we start working on day 446789 and start working on the election of a new speaker -- everybody is talking about we have been without a speaker for 15 days or whatever. we were out for six weeks and didn't do a thing. reporter: would you recommend he go to another ballot? mr. burchett: i recommend we keep going until we get somebody. host: let's hear from our independent line. our line for others in lubbock, texas. this is mark. caller: thank you for taking my call. first of all for the people who are saying that i'm a former republican, independent now, about the election night, i guess they didn't understand how absentee voting works. but jim jordan has no interest in serving the american people. he only serves don

on january 6 jim jordan talked to the president at least twice. and in the final report the committee concluded that jordan was a significant player in the conspiracy who, quote, appears to have had materially relevance communications with donald trump or others in the white house but the committee did not know about the substance of those communications because jordan, quote, failed to comply with the select committee's subpoenas, unq unquote. so what happens to the country if jim jordan is elected speaker of the house. >> liz cheney paints a pretty dire picture. >> if the republicans decide that jim jordan should be speaker of the house, there would no longer be any possible way to argue that group of elected republicans could be counted on to defend the constitution. >> cnn reached out to jordan's office for reaction to these comments from cheney and hutchinson and from the january 6 select committee. we did not get a response. if we get one, we'll share it with you. lauren fox is starting off our coverage today with a closer look at how the man

against jim jordan, the pressure tactics of jim jordan. i don't believe at this point that jim jordan can unify the party. yesterday he tried to get the house open again and couldn't get his own people to vote for him. i have issues with his ability to govern. it's not just about governing one's side, got to govern all sides of this party, we need a unifier, not sure jim jordan is that gentleman. david: you think your actions are unifying the party rather than splitting it apart? >> don't look at me. david: we are because you are the one who voted against him. >> the one that has the most votes is kevin mccarthy, 210 that he got two weeks ago, 8 republicans, to put us in chaos. they want to point fingers, point fingers that those 8. david: you know the old ask pression forgive and forget. congressman mccarthy was the one who nominated jim jordan today and you are still focusing on something that happened a few weeks ago. americans are looking at the dysfunction in congress which is supposed to be run by republicans. it's not be run by repu

or did not vote for jim jordan. steve scalise got five of those votes. a couple of those votes, vern buchanan and john james voted for jim jordan the first time. don bacon and ken buck, again consistent in votes not for jim jordan. after today's vote, chip roy, republican of texas, caught up with reporters on the capitol steps. here's what he had to say about the process. >> he's at 199, kevin was dunn to 200 at the low point of his voting in the 15 votes. i'm sticking with jordan through the process. the number is not dramatically different. with the four lost, two gained, plus one who came back. >> jordan said earlier he asked leadership to go ahead and put the resolution on the floor to keep mchenry in power because he wants to see where people are. what do you think -- mr. roy: i think what jim is doing is calling a bluff of people saying they're going to deal with democrats. good luck explaining that back home, that you're cutting a deal with the democrats. never in the history of this institution, to the best

jim jordan on the other hand, is the most selfless members i have known. i have known jim a long time, so i want to do something different. i actually called the freshmen members on his committee and asked them what do you think of your chairman? here is just a few. i quote -- jim empowers every member of the judiciary to pursue what interests them. i quote by another, he lets each of us take the lead on the issues that are important to us, even letting freshmen and junior members take important roles. another one, he trusts our judgment on how we handle issues and witnesses, and all he seeks is our input on key issues is. another, as a freshman, he had me lead off a hearing that related to my subject matter expertise, and he goes out of his way to highlight members' successes. he is straight forward, honest and reliable. that is who jim jordan is and that is what being a speaker is all about. now, some of you may not know this, but jim and i have a long history. we created it, because we take our job serious. i first met jim as a candidate. i traveled to o

host: why specifically jim jordan? why to you support him? caller: because i think he's a strong republican. he will back the republican plan. and hopefully we can go on and get a new president because our president belongs in a hurting -- in a nursing home. host: ok. let's hear from gary in new hampshire. democrats line. gary, good morning, you're next. caller: good morning, i oppose jim jordan's nomination to be speaker of the house. she a trump supporter. he is an election denier. they are all in denial that trump is a -- trump is a criminal. trump is a criminal. that's all there is to it. we are a nation of laws. it is about time the republican party stopped their shenanigans and get to governing this country and get this country back on track. or else come next november, they're all going to be voted out of office. host: richard in michigan. our line for others. that you can call in at 202-748-8922. richard, you are next up. good morning. caller: good morning. i don't support jim jordan either. i believe he's a poser or pretenning to be

against jim jordan?uest: the guys who are higher don bacon, mario deas and ken bock. he could be tanked right at the beginning of the alphabet. some lawmakers can skip their turn and come back to them afterwards if they don't want to determine the vote count. there are some lawmakers who say they will withhold support at the top of the alphabet. at the beginning of this roll call we can see what his chances are. host: i saw an article with don bacon who said he hopes his last name was zacon so he would not have to be at the top of the vote. it will be called by patrick mchenry at noon. was the first thing we will see? guest: we will see some speeches. soon after, the understanding is that we will get into the speaker's race. it was two weeks ago today that the house voted to oust kevin mccarthy and has been in the state of paralysis where they could not make any legislation. the budget deadline, supporting israel, this is in a big priority and urgency to elect a new speaker and get on with legislative bu

>> well, some in the party have changed to be more like jim jordan. i think we're seeing more gerrymandered districts, which bring more polarized, political individuals into congress. but i also saw jim change. because jim was somebody who worked with leadership over the last two terms. look, i was excited to be nominated to serve on the january 6 select committee with jim, with others. but unfortunately, speaker pelosi did what she did best as speaker, she set precedents that tore the fabric of the institution apart. >> well, she rejected some of those picks and then kevin mccarthy pulled all of them. i mean, part of that is also personal to you. you voted to certify president biden's win. jim jordan notably did not. that's part of why liz cheney was saying, you know, he can't be trusted with the speakership. do you not think it's disqualifying if it's someone who voted against certifying the legitimate election results? >> you know, voting against certifying election results just didn't begin on that tragic day of january 6. it began -- it happened i

this is one of you saying i favor steve scalise over jim jordan because jordan is representing trump. we do not want that at congress. we need a speaker to focus on e well-being of the american people and not on trump. this text messagsaying the republicans can't get it together. they're not thinking abouthe american people, they're thinking with what will be best for them and them only. this is no longer a republican form of government -- a reputable form of government, how can they govern if they n't govern themselves? jim jordan isn't the answer and neither is steve scalise. if that's their best options, we've got some serious problems. one more from adam in south florida. i'm a lifelong democrat. put came lease in there, he'll be able to get the job done and keep the government open. one more call here from ashton, west virginia, independent. this is carol. good evening, carol. caller: good evening. i'm disappointed in both parties. neither party wants to get along with the other party. i've watched the republicans little chaotic adventure here. and i've watched the democrats chao

endorsement of jim jordan affected his candidacy? guest: it certainly boosted it and solidified it. in the end, it caused steve scalise to bow out. there is a series of events that happened there were jordan got a tepid enforcement -- endorsement of scalise. trump will be a fairly big factor. some talk about the whip who is running. he is the front runner but he has trump issues. he did not vote to overturn the 2020 election that something trump held a grudge against him for. that will make it difficult for him to get to the majority. host: the idea of the motion to vacate, what are you hearing about the status of that staying in the rules package once the speaker is chosen? guest: after maccarthy was deposed, i heard a lot about that being changed. but as it dawned on people that they were not sure who would be the speaker, is not clear they want to change that. it's sort of a last resort. if jim jordan got in there, maybe moderates want that in their back pocket if jordan started covering -- governing in a way that was too conservative. there is a sense of leaving adam place. -- to

it didn't help members if they were willing to turn and vote for jim jordan today. at happens if jordan fails? at the press conference this morning i tried to ask him will we go through the weekend? that is unclear. he kind of has insinuated that but here is the one thing to watch for. this is very important. david joyce, republican from ohio has a special resolution that they could put on the floor to elect -- underscore that -- elect patrick mchenry the current acting speaker pro tem as the actual speaker proper team. the house has gone through other periods in history without a speaker. so long as they have elected a speaker pro tem, then they can go about the business and start to pass bills, deal with funding the government, deal with the president's aid package to israel and ukraine and taiwan. they can't do anything until they do that. that could be in play if this vote fails later on. back to you guys. >> shannon: chad pergram staying on it as the clock ticks down and wait to see how the dust settles this time around. we'll stay in touch. thank you. >> gillia

jim jordan did not have the votes. here is the thing though, there were the people that we were expecting to vote against jordan, people like ken buck, people like mario dÍaz-balart. all of those people came through in a way that we thought they would. but then there are the problems that i don't think the jordan team saw coming, and many of us were caught off guard by as well. i know some democrats who thought that when the chairwoman of the -- committee, grainger, voted against jordan, they thought that she might have made a mistake. that is a pretty important key vote not to have seen coming, and it does spell signs of deeper trouble for jordan. of course, who's spending these important hours in an overnight period tried to talk to members who say that they are against him. there are some cohorts who have dug in. i think it's important to point out in your introduction here, is how many different pieces this touches. when reporters on capitol hill talk about the fact that january six looms large over everything, the

jim jordan had 200 votes for speakership, and he lost. at happened to mccarthy and jordan is what they were trying to do to president biden. i hope mccarthy -- i hope jordan does get the speakership because i think he will go down in flames just like john host: host:. 11:00 today is -- down in flames just like john boehner. host: 11:00 today is when the vote will happen. walter in mississippi, republican line. caller: i don't really care who they get as speaker of the house. whoever it is, when biden does the state of the union address, i want him to tear up the speech the same way that nancy pelosi did. that was the most disrespectful thing i have ever seen on television, and there wasn't anything done to her. that is all i have got to say. host: max is in south carolina, independent line. caller: good morning. i would like to touch on two topics. in the speaker's house, i would love to see them put mccarthy back in. they shouldn't let 8 people determine their party. the democrats vote in unison, whether it is good or bad but they are org

to sink him, but will the six hold through multiple ballots, and will others join in to oppose jim jordan? much more ahead. >>> mr. jordan -- >> really good. >> how many ballots are you willing to go? are you willing to go as many as kevin mccarthy? >> i am sorry i have to go. >> are you willing to go ballot after ballot like kevin mccarthy. >> whatever it takes to get a speaker. >> what are some to concerns? >> we are picking up support every day, and so it is -- i feel confident. >> have you spoken to president trump, and asked him to help you with this vote? >> i have not talked to the president in a couple of days. >> how are things going? >> very good. >> why wouldn't you say to ken buck that the election is not stolen? >>> so manu raju there chasing down congressman jim jordan speed walking, who wants to be the speaker of the house within the next few hours will be a vote on the house floor shortly. and just to explain what manu is asking about. colorado republican ken buck is one of the people that we have listed as firm no right now, because ken buck has asked jim jordan to acknow

we are watching the following lawmakers who may abandon jim jordan. republican representatives dave joyce of ohio, and wagoner of missouri, ferguson of texas. we expect more of that today. representative has switched his vote. punch bowl adding that if mr. jordan loses support, it would all but doom his effort despite the strong backing he's getting. it then asks if he cannot be speaker, who can? there's talk of the majority whip making a run. consensus candidates have been suggested. mike johnson, frank lucas, and tom paul. adding the easiest answer is for the house to formally elect mchenry to the post. speaker vote today at 11:00. you can see that on c-span and c-span now. you can comment on the president's trip to israel. the lines (202) 748-8001 for republicans, (202) 748-8000 free democrats, and (202) 748-8002 for independents. on facebook, this is john mcnally saying as far as the hoe eaker vote tod, i have my popcorn ready and am anticipating the republican clown car will crash and burn. as far as president biden and israel, this is what leerip

talk about jim jordan.i was stunned in speech to nominate him when there was a -- admission he must've got social security, medicare, medicaid, through the most important -- he wnats to gu t social security, medicaid, medicare. there the most important. so we are not going to agree any speaker they put up but if we can find someone -- even a caretaker for the next 45 days, get through some of these very trying times, the crisis overseas, the need to continue our government open, democrats are going to be open to doing that. host: congresswoman lois frankel thank you for the conversation this morning. we will take a break when we come back with continue with our conversations we have been havg all morning. the race for speaker on capitol hill and the international story of the war between israel and hamas. there are the lines on your screen. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ >> monday watch c-span series in partnership the library of congress books that shaped america featuring mark twain's novel adventures of huckle

jim jordan is a higher point trial -- profile name. former representatives liz cheney over the weekend said she did not think jim jordan should be speaker because of matters relating to january 6. definitely will be something i am sure we will see from democrats, although they have not weighed in yet on that topic or participated in that internal republican discussion. host: you can text us at (202) 748-8003. call us at (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. independents, (202) 748-8002. i want to play a little bit from representative matt gaetz on the sunday show yesterday about his take on what the speaker's race and his thoughts on it. after that, get -- answer a couple of questions on that. [video clip] >> i think in a two man race, it is easier to get someone to 50% plus one then in a race where you have seven people. the fact it has been a constrained race -- you are watching the plan player. if we have any speaker, jim jordan or speaker steve scalise at the end of the coming week, there will not a single r

caller: i have no problem with jim jordan. i don't understand why he was even put up for speaker if they didn't have the support. he needs, what, 17 votes? and representatives were going in the opposite direction. nobody seems to have an answer. it's embarrassing. host: and he lost more votes yesterday. he needed 17 in the first round of vote, he lost even more on the second round of voting. manu raju of cnn tweeting out today, multiple g.o.p. sources sa jim jordan is bleeding votes and is poised to lose more republicans if he goes through with a third ballot one g.o.p. member who opposes jordan said there are about 30 no votes from republicans. congressman jim jordan not proceeding today with this third round of voting. we have learned from reports on capitol hill that behind closed doors, with his colleagues, he has proposed this temporary solution which is give the speaker pro tem the power to act, bring legislation to the floor. that's patrick mchenry. 47 years old. member of congress. republican from north carolina. roy i

that is who jim jordan is. and that's what being speaker is all about. some of you may not know this but jim and i have a long history. we created because we take our jobs serious. i first met jim as a candidate. i traveled to ohio. i remember pulling up for breakfast at a bob evans in ohio. there was jim having a meeting, listening to constituents. i traveled with him throughout the day from rotary to farm bureau to just listening to people who had concerns. i watched them, the -- i watched then, the same jim jordan i see today. he was a leader. a listener. and a fighter. we were actually elected to congress that same year and became close friends. it was a small class, there was only 13 of us. one of the smallest republican classes in modern history. over time, we took different routes. jim actually ran against me for lead for the 2018. it was a hard-fought battle. but i never once questioned his skills or commitment to this conference or this country. after the race, i became leader and we had an opening for the ranking member on house oversight. jim d

ali, we heard from jim jordan.e spoke to his republican caucus trying to rally the votes, trying to win over the holdouts. did he change anyone's minds? >> reporter: it doesn't appear he did. you got to imagine if jim jordan were going into this vote with any more new support, he would have announced it this morning around 8:00 a.m. when he held forth with reporters. what we it get was a lesson on the wright brothers and the idea that the house does need to elect a speaker. i'm not going into this vote anticipating that jordan is going to have any new ground swell of support. that would be welcome news for jordan allies. at the same time, when we listen to them do effectively their home room attendance roll call, it will look one number different we expect because there is one member that we think might not be present today. we'll wait to see when his name comes up in the roll call to be sure. it is someone if we're right is a jordan backer, which would mean jordan is down one yes vote today. we'll be playing the n

how jim jordan is an insurrectionist. it looks like with the help of republicans, they are successfully achieving. jordan has not faced any charges over january 6, but it is something that there is some focus on. host: ohio, john is there and is that he. independent -- is it there in cincinnati. independent. caller: the republicans have 221 members. if they would elect lee zeldin, not currently a member, would he be able to vote and make it 222? guest: it is possible someone who is not a member of the house could become the speaker which is why we see votes for lee zeldin, but he would not be a vote during -- a voting member of the house, he would just be the speaker. host: kelly in new york, democratic caller. . caller: i am a democrat but i love democracy and i know we need a healthy congress. i do not understand why the moderate republicans do not call the bluff on extreme and a few of them vote present, put up a decent republican and then the rest are going to have to join or else my guy is going to become speaker of

are they gonna vote for jim jordan? vote for jordan, from any of them, for many republican, but especially from these vulnerablemembers, is a vote for moderate streamers'd. it's a proxy vote for donald trump. donald trump, hey, it's a vote for donald trump and matt gaetz, who have both endorsed. and it'snot clear if the republican party understand the problem they have. and a crystal clear advance example of their total oblivion, earlier today, this is too good, i can'tbelieve this, we learned the candidates for speaker we're going to have a debate on fox news, on television. now, keep in mind, fox and the right-wing media ecosystem, is largely responsible for the current state of the republican party. they have produced a movement so obsessively focused on trolling and attention that it has no governing vision. it's essentially a media production. a fox news debate for speaker was kind of a perfect idea in that resct, but a terrible idea on the merits. such a terrible idea, it's part of immediate backlash even from wit

jim jordan has not passed a single bill in his entire congressional career. now, trump endorsed jordan in his bid for speaker of the house, and the campaign to make jim jordan speaker of the house has been full of bullying and intimidation. republicans who opposed to jordan received threatening emails from a fox news host, pressuring them to support jim jordan. multiple republicans and their spouses received death threats from trump jordan supporters. one member of congress even got evicted from his own office in his home district. yet, none of it has worked, none of it. instead, all week, we have watched jim jordan slowly bleed support in his bid for speaker. that all culminated in today's third floor vote, which saw mr. jordan received the fewest votes of any speaker candidate since the house became a 435 member body in the year 1929. and man, from there, it only got worse. republicans then met behind closed doors, and voted to officially a nominate jim jordan, to depose him as their nominee. in today's public speaker vote on the house floor, 25 republicans

the other entrances into this building, i haven't spoken to anyone who is saying ally or not of jim jordanhat he has the votes to become speaker today. instead, jordan is grappling with a few different cross currents. members are so frustrated and fatigue that they aren't making progress, some are considering empowering the speaker pro tempore, patrick mchenry, for a set period of time so they can get with the business of doing congress and running the government. for jordan, he thinks it is a question of do you want to do that or elect me as speaker. listen to what he said in the last few minutes. >> the question today is are we going to elect a republican speaker or are we going to have -- with democrats involved in selecting the speaker? i just met with our leadership and said put both questions to the body today. let's find out. we have been at this for two weeks now. >> reporter: we may get the opportunity to find out, jose, the way that this is going to go is that 11:00, we're going to see them gavel in, members on the floor, they'll do the pledge, a prayer, they're going to do a quo

caller: i'm supporting jim jordan. i like jim jordan. i honestly would even like patrick mchenry. host: because we have heard from conservative republicans, ralph norman, marjorie taylor greene, kevin hern from john bresnahan's reporting, says he's the republican study chair committee, he opposes this idea of gettingatrick mchenry. temporary 30uers -- powers until january. that would, some arc, give jim jordan more time to get the votes. 217 he needs. getting those republicans' opponents onboard. do you agree with that? caller: i have mixed feelings about it. honestly i would like -- i would rather have jim jordan. i don't want the government to shut down. i want stuff to get through. we have to get back to work eventually. maybe just give him temporary powers until we finally have somebody elected. what i don't like about what they are doing this time is that when kevin mccarthy was getting elected, 15 times, they would do multiple times a day. until somebody was elected. or until three or four votes a day. they are doing one. take ago break. that's why i'm starting to get annoye

our friend and colleague, jim jordan, is a patriot. he's an america-first warrior who wins the toughest of fights. going after corruption and delivering accountability at the highest levels of government, on behalf of we the people. jim is the voice of the american people who have felt voiceless for far too long. whether as judiciary chair, conservative leader or representative for his constituents in west-central ohio, whether on the wrestling mat or in the committee room, jim jordan is strategic, scrappy, tough and principled. he's a mentor, a worker and, above all, he's a fighter. and the american people know, we know that jim jordan is a winner on behalf of the american over 10 years ago many of us sat with jim jordan in this very chamber when prime minister netanyahu delivered his historic address which some across the aisle shamefully boycotted. he pointed out we serve under the watchful gaze of moses and he said, quote, overlooking all of us in this chamber is the image of moses. and before the people entered the land of israel,

for jim jordan.sked hakeem jeffries the democratic leader whether he was committed to having all of his members here. he said yes. but the first call this morning 4 members were absent. he said they were determined to keep jim jordan from being the speaker of the house because they viewed him as a threat. at what point does jim jordan start to peel off of this? that's the question in this one o'clock meeting. >> chad pergram. thank you. joey jones. i am frustrated looking at the house floor and i speak for many americans of both parties. i would like to imagine a world where there is a house speaker right now. it would be a world where there was a bipartisan bill because there were at least 8 democrats on board for the iron dome funding and freeing $6 billion for iran. you could have both and a motion or a resolution to censure rashida tlaib. it would be a world where republicans were leading on israel. instead you have a president who gives an oval office address and no answer from the other side be

she ended up voting for jim jordan. ictoria sparts from indiana who had voted against jordan yesterday, she becomes the second anti-jordan vote who flipped. doug llama fa, california, victoria sparts from indiana, both yeses on jordan. the other 18 who were noes yesterday continue to be knows. and we mentioned those four other new no votes. it means jordan had a net loss from the first vote to this new vote, he had a net loss of two votes. there were 20 against him yesterday in the first ballot, it will be 22 against him on this second ballot. >> well, garrett, i'm no mathematician, but that means you're going in the wrong direction. so patrick mchenry, still going to be pressure on him, pressure on the democrats to join if patrick mchenry is put forward as an extended, temporary, but empowered speaker. >> yeah, look, i think the pressure is still on the republican side here. i mean, democrats have made it very clear they're sort of waiting with open hand, but republicans have to extend the hand first, right? like democr

jim jordan is. he i think they don't want to be tied to kind of some of his past policies or whatever and don't want to be tied to that because the districts are purple or blue and boating could hurt them in reelection. they are also worried about some of the votes he might have them take if he is speaker whether -- speaker. that is one of the worries from some of the moderates. talking to the veteran members of the house republican conference, a lot of them will likely support jordan on the floor because they respect the institution but a lot are upset because they see jordan supporters, whether it be thomas mackey, beth miller, however, steve scully said the nomination, they kind of tainted and said we would never vote for steve scalise, we are voting for jim jordan, he is our guy, we are the -- the guy we want. they see it as jordan didn't come out and endorse steve scalise but he was unable to have some of the fellow colleagues behind that were supportive -- supporting him. he said if you can't

but what i know is i spoke with him all the time. >> jim jordan, a person in congress, then defied a essional subpoena from the january 6th committee, where he might have had to elaborate on that answer under oath. since trump left office, congressman jordan has been in the vanguard of republican efforts to discredit the investigations into trump. he chaired the house republican subcommittee on the weaponization of the federal government, which has so far failed to turn up any evidence that the federal government is being weaponized. he has tried to inject himself into the state cases against donald trump, by badgering district attorney, alvin bragg and fani willis for information, despite having no authority over state prosecutors. as a new york times jim alba writes to about today about jim jordan, once again, republicans are confronted with the deeply transgressive figure with open contempt for the institutions of american democracy, flawed as they may be. once again, republican swear they'll resist his ascent. once again, republicans cave, more fearful of losing a primary, or comi

so there is every reason that congressman jim jordan should receive the same amount of scrutiny. the final report from the january 6th committee states unequivocally, representative jordan was a significant player in president trump's efforts, the list of his transgressions is exhaustive. he led a conference call with donald trump and other members of congress about delaying the electoral vote proceedings. and the day before the attack, jordan texted white house chief of staff mark meadows about how vice president mike pence could reject electoral votes. jordan also spoke with trump by phone at least twice on january 6th but has never given a straight answer about it. >> did you talk to the former president that day? >> i talked to the former president umpteen times, countless times. i continue to talk to the president. >> i mean on january 6th, congressman. >> yes. >> on january 6th, did you speak with him before, during, or after the capitol was attacked? >> i would have to go -- i spoke with him that day after. i think after. i don't know if i spoke with him in the morning or n

jim jordan from becoming speaker.ending out these messages and are other members pointing the finger at him? he is the one who triggered all of this by triggering the motion to vacate. is he getting any blowback for the threats as fellow members are receiving? >> not that i can tell. mccarthy did condemn gaetz for fundraising off of this. whether or not it was his fault, i don't actually know. but gaetz is not someone who was ever here to make new friends by motioning to vacate against mccarthy. and i think that most people that are murmuring behind his back and in the media saying this is why we're here are the exact same people that were never too keen on matt gaetz any way. i'm not sure there was ever a permission structure where matt gaetz gets his from within the conference for putting him in this situation. they're frustrated with him then. frustrated with him now. i don't know that it's any different. >> tara, you worked on the hill. have you ever heard of a cable television host, sean hannity and his producers

jim jordan is a maga darling. republicans can bend the knee to the extremism that has plagued the house for the last 10 months or join us or join us in a bipartisan path forward. let's work together and pass bills that improve the lives of americans. no default, no shutdown and no more chai use. -- chaos. thank you very much. [cheers and applause] [chanting hakeem] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2023] captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org. >> we are waiting for the house to come back into session and coming back into session to recess. according to fox news, the house is going home until monday. 65 votes out of 217. the house will be coming in momentarily. and after that, going up to the new hampshire candidate forum. in the meantime, we'll watch the end of this democratic press conference. host: 217 needed for speaker in the republican conference. jim jordan got and here's the tweet that austin sco