with congressman jim jordan about house republican plans for job creation. the ohio congressman heads up of the republican study committee in -- committee. joined by census director robert groves to discuss the changing demographics and the u.s. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] host: good morning. it is friday, november 4, 2011. one year and two days out from election day 2012. newspapers are dominated by the stories in europe this morning, about the situation with the euro crisis, particularly with greece. the referendum there dropped but concerns over the stability of the european union and the euro itself. we are going to ask you this morning about the united states and its role as a financial superpower and whether not the u.s. still has the interest and the ability to be an economic leader in crises such as the europeans are facing right now. do you see our role changing, and the ones winning? tell us about it. good friday morning. we are here just two hours this morning bec

on this morning's "washington journal,"we will talk to congressman jim jordan and a director of the census bureau discusses demographic changes in u.s. society. >> the new october unemployment report will be released today. the commissioner of the bureau of labor statistics will testify today about the latest jobs numbers before the joint economic committee. you can see live coverage at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span 2. gop presidential candidate mitt romney and herman cain will deliver remarks at the americans for prosperity foundation today. rudy giuliani will also be on hand. live coverage begins at 1:00 p.m. eastern also on c-span 2. >> when i started to sell my books, every person i worked with have rejection letters for me so that was cruel. they said we love your stuff but what about this. >> in his nonfiction book, his account of mark zuckerberg and the creation of facebook was adapted for the screen as "the social network." his latest book, "sex on the moon"and now is your chance to ask questions. he is live on "in depth" live on sunday at 12 noon. >> former nbc nightly news anchor

congress, house and senate who sit on the panel among them are mike lee, and rand paul, myself, jim jordans. bill: have you seen the plan before it goes public? >> i have. i've reviewed it, and looked at it from a line item standpoint. i've not taken all the piece is apart like i would like to do, but i will tell you, it's a little bit tough and it causes me to have a bit of a gut check. on the other hand so does the prospect of the united states of america becoming a one huge greece. bill: can you say now before we go the way of athens that you would endorse the plan that will be unveiled today. >> i don't think i can say i endorse every aspect of it. i endorse the concept of what we must do to get our spending under control. and i'm very grateful that i'm involved in it to this level. when i first came mere to congreshere to congress i went to the chairman of the budget committee and said, where is our balanced budget? what i got back was, you don't know anything, you're a freshman in congress, it's impossible to balance our budget. we went to war and came within $160 billion to balancin

the house oversight subcommittee hearing is chaired by ohio congressman jim jordan. >> the subcommittee will come to order. we want to welcome our guests and a panel today. mr. kats is on his way to be he will be here in 15 minutes so we will start with opening statements and then get right to our testimony. today's hearing continues the examination of this administration's efforts to use taxpayer dollars to fund a massive drain the energy experiment. in 2000 by a stimulus director around $90 billion towards green initiatives including loan guarantees for the firms, money to the rhizomes, training grants and many other products. the president told the american people that green jobs would be a major force not just for environmental conservation but economic recovery. the president said that we will harness the sun and the wind and the soil for our cars and to run factories and he promised the country would create millions of green jobs to help us compete in the global economy. however refer to and have years to this experiment the available evidence demonstrates these efforts have waste

a big thanks to our leader, jim jordan, for initiating this to congressman derrek for -- garrett forpearheading it, and to congressman -- the other congressmen for doing the lion's share of the work. there is somebody in america who doesn't think we are overregulated. that is the president of the united states. this is not hard. this is not rocket science. this is a collision of two dramatically different mindsets. this president believes that this town create jobs. say it. that is what he believes. you all should not be bashful about reporting that. everybody up on this stage believe something very different. i would argue most of the american people believe something very different. this country creates jobs. all we want our government to do is get out of the way. this plan is the personification of that, to get washington out of the way so that the job creators in this country can do what they do best. this is the response to the president, who for months now has been out campaigning on a jobs plan based on his mind set. let's have that debate. let me introduce my colleague from i

host: next is burlington, north carolina, for congressman jim jordan. this caller is debbie. good morning. caller: good morning. i hope everybody is doing well. host: thank you. caller: in my humble opinion, i'm not a rocket scientist. i am just an average american citizen. but i pride myself on having some common sense. and common sense tells me that if the private sector that funds the public sector, we have to do what we can to strengthen the private sector. guest: well said. caller: so my point is, number one, we need to go to a flat tax. we need to get rid of the loopholes in the tax system. government needs to get out of the way of picking winners and lazers. guest: well said. caller: that way we can all be winners. and if spending more government money was the answer, hey, i'm looking outside my win do. my highway is not paved in gold. so my point is we have got to put out the "open for business" sign here in the united states and do what we can to help the private sector make jobs for all of us. thank you and have a blessed day. guest: thank you. i couldn't have said

." >> on your screen is friday morning as congressman jim jordan, republican of ohio, chairman of the study committee, which is more or less an in-house think tank for the republican party. ideas generator for the leadership. he is also a member of the house judiciary committee and a member of government reform and oversight committee. thanks for being with us. we want to talk jobs, but the republican study committee has been very strong about deficit reduction is for quite a while. i want to start by asking you about the deficit reduction super committee. other reports in the papers suggest they're at an impasse. what are your thoughts? >> guest: well, we hope not. we hope we are going to get spending, which every american knows we need to do. my biggest concern on the news reports from the speaker that some of the committee and some members of the overall congress are looking to raise taxes. i think that is a big mistake. we need to reduce spending. i tell the folks back home where not one-to-one. with a $15 trillion economy and we have almost a $15 trillion debt. anytime you get in

but jim jordan who is the chairman of the republican study committee in the house rights the opposition view that there is no time to raise taxes. i'm wondering about the conservative republican study committee and its influence over any sort of deal that might come out of the deficit reduction committee. >> i think there were some members of congress who might be willing to have taxes as a part of this deficit reduction talk, not just in terms of raising taxes and cutting them but legitimately raise revenue through the increased tax creating new forms of taxation. but as long as the republican study committee is out there talking about how that is they will be less willing because they feel they will take that study committee and it's very possible with the republican party by and large and grover norquist says this is not he that is powerful it is the idea you will not raise taxes that powerful, so i think that that is seen in the essentially the other members of crossing them publicly and then said to be less than to the party line to the new tax orthodoxy of the republican party. >>

in that ""usa today de" --torial-page jim jordan, leader of the opposition and the house, says there is "no time to raise taxes." guest: i think there are some members of congress who might be willing to have taxes as part of health, and not just in terms of raising taxes in one place and putting them in another, but a legitimate need raising revenues through increased tax rates or a new forms of taxation. as long as the republican study committee is out there talking about how that is an apostasy, they will be less willing to go for it, because they feel primaries from republicans will take the republican study committee line. grover norquist says this, that is powerful, it is the idea that you do not raise taxes that is powerful. it is essentially it members crossing them publicly and then said to be less than adhering to the party line, the not-tax orthodoxy of the republican party. host: gary, indiana. steve, you are next. caller: good morning. i cannot understand how grover norquist is a topic of conversation. he has never been elected to anything. he evidently failed third grad

jordan. what could potentially trigger the kind of magnetic pull of protest movement that we have seen in other places in the region? >> one more question for this round. in the front. >> thank you. jim michael, i am a consultant. it seems to me that this top down has to interact with the society that has some values of things like equality of treatment, they believe that the institutions of governance, justice can make a positive difference for the society. where you have the different groups contending and competing and acceptance of the idea that you get treated on the east bank then if you're on the west bank and you're treated different if you're a man, and the kind of skepticism which i found, the skepticism about whether these reforms are whether they are transformational changes in the society. i like to hear about the panelists about how you see engaging civil society. some of these reforms have not been very transparent or produce a big story -- participatory. if it doesn't develop, it doesn't is a big sustainable process. >> thank you. >> the question of imbalance in jordanian society. the traditional relationship between the different sectors of the regime is changing. mo

jordan. what could intentionally trigger the kind of magnetic pull of protest movements we have seen in other places in the region? >> more questions for this round? there in the front. >> yes, thank you. jim michael. i am a consultant in development with a principle focus of development of rule of law. it seems to me that this top down and it is related to the previous question i think, has to interact with a civil society that has some values of things like equality of treatment, a belief that the institutions of governance and justice can make a positive difference for the society, and where you have the different groups contending and competing and an acceptance of the idea that well if you are east bank you get treated differently than if you are west bank and if you are women you get treated then if you are a man. the kinds of divisions in society and the skepticism which i found in talking to people in the region, the skepticism about whether these reforms are modernization or whether they are a transformational change in society. i would like to hear from the panel panels about how you see engaging civil society. some of these reforms like the constitutional process have not been v