right after the break, republican congressman jim jordan will be telling me if he thinks he'll have allhe answers. >> it's a little bit longer than our 24 hours, it's a little further away. >> and then legendary space icon astronaut buzz aldrin shares his visions for space exploration. why he believes moving to mars is the future of the next frontier. >>> first, it's your turn to pick the news. here some viewer choice options -- take a look. twin peaks. what a way to announce a pregnancy. it brought one little goirl tears. >>> how about owning air force one? it's for sale, folks. >>> or jacqueline smith at the gas pump? use your imagination there. to vote for the one that you want at the end of our show, log on to foxnews.com/anhq, and we will announce the winner. >>> welcome back. let's taken a quick look at stories making news this hour. the irs is apologizing for targeting the tea party and other conservative groups. the agency acknowledging friday that it inappropriately flagged these groups for additional revause. those reviews were made during the 2012 election season to see if th

>> well, actually, i have a lot of confidence in darryl issa and jim jordan. i wouldn't want them breathing down my neck. they will be very aggressive in doing this. whether we need a special council at the end of the day to get to the bottom of this, time will tell. bottom line, i support issa and congressman jordan to want to get to the answer. really. we didn't get the answers today. we have more to go. the two questions for the irs is one, was this a case of mismanagement and ineptitude or was it a politically organized and motivated event and it's really important that the american people get a conclusion on that. we didn't get it today. so there's more work to be done. >> i'll give you the same choice as peter welsh framed it. was this ineptitude or politically driven? >> it's ha ready to make that determination right now because we aren't getting enough information. the people aren't testifying. they're refusing now to testify under the fifth amendment protection. we do need to get more information starting at that time white house as to what the white

i thought jim jordan made the best point. there is no way they can claim incompetence but to calculating by planting that question. jim jordan linked it to benghazi and he said this is calculated colluded plotted by the administration. when she started talking and then invoked the fifth, she can't do that. she just waived her rights. darrell issa said she did. she lose her rights because she pulled that stunt and they may be able to bring her back. >> dana: one of the things next week congress will go out of town, it will be memorial day. it's going to last a week. sometimes scandals like this go away and evaporate, but i have a feeling when members of congress go back to their districts next week and they have the townhall meetings they are going to get an earful from their constituents. >> eric: probably 245 of them probably will. the other balance, whatever of congress won't. i have a hunch we will stay on this. lerner taking the fifth, it's a alarming. she is taking it, why? because she wants to protect herself or she wan

let's listen to one of the more i guess outlandish examples from jim jordan of the state of ohio. >>nistration, which told us and told the american people that the attack that killed four americans in benghazi was the work -- was caused by a video is now the same administration who expects us to believe that this scandal was just the result of two rogue agents in cincinnati. >> michael: i thought there was a rule you couldn't bring one scandal into another one, i don't know if jordan missed that memo. but are these hearings shaping up as partisan political theater? >> what is important to remember is that in washington it can oftentimes be both. it can be relevant and marred with political partisan attacks. it seems very clear from the outset that cummings and issa the two top democrat and republican on the committee are working hard to keep this as bipartisan as possible. the republicans are outraged by what happened with the irs. and everyone is shouting now, house, senate, democrats, republicans. i mean it has gotten -- it has become less of a partisan theatrical show than i antic

and all it's "tanks" to ohio's senator rob portman and congressman jim jordan. it's a brave stance for these fiscal conservatives. congressman jordan who represents lima ohio where the tanks are manufactured defended the cost saying, quote, the one area where we are supposed to spend tax payer money is in defense of the country. the other area, you know, his district. and if the army doesn't really want them, that's fine. these two have voted to cut funding to all kinds of services and the tanks can help fill the gaps. for instance, meals on wheels got hit by the sequester. let's replace it with breads on treads. ( cheers and applause ). i mean, one of these tanks can barrage the elderly with sticky buns from three miles away. and we may not be able to pay for cancer patients' medicine anymore, but we can offer them one last bad-ass day of adventure. and it's not just the social services. i mean in the military the blue angels' budget has been splashed but it will be just as exciting to watch the gray tankles. oh, they're making another square. the best part is

off the house oversight committee starting to a grill chairman bernanke last week representative jim jordan and dare i say i had a meeting with the chairman this is following a letter that they sent to the fed starting to subpoena documents regarding the fed's exit strategy there has been no word from the committee on what was talked about in the meeting that committee and the fed both declined to comment and maybe there is no exit strategy but i would point out that was one of the guys who was instrumental in getting some of the important documentation that we have from the fed's bailout g. and there was a lot of interesting information in there so i hope he's on the case again and we'll get something interesting for the chairman and his colleagues over at the thread i guess no comment is the comment exactly so also the f o m c minutes were. today and we take a look at some of the quotes and went through the feds and the first one and thank you to zero hedge for making our lives so easy as always they produced a version right after the minutes were released and here's a quote a number of p

congressman jim jordan is demanding answers and he will be joining us live at the top of the hour. >>> we're also following live coverage of astronauts taking an emergency space walk to try to fix an ammonia leak at the international space station power station. buzz aldrin is joining us at the top of the hour to talk about his mission. stay with us. >>> this hearing is over but the investigation is definitely not as gop lawmakers still look for answers after the benghazi hearings. some people say we already know how to keep americans safe overseas, stop sending money to countries that hate us and instead spend it on beefing up security at u.s. embassies and consulates. tracy, no-brainer, right? >> no-brainer. $1.7 billion to iraq. why don't we try to protect our people a little bit. if you've got money to burn and want to send $500 million to the palestines, they hate us too. i can think of 50,000 things here in the united states that could use that money. >> wayne, not a bad idea. god only knows we need more security at our embassies, right? >> i think that's true, eric, but you kno

house oversight committee is starting to a grill it's have been burning last week representative jim jordan and dare i say i had a meeting with the chairman this is following a letter that they sent to the fed threatening to subpoena documents regarding the fed's exit strategy there has been no word from the committee on what was talked about in the meeting that committee and the fed both declined to comment and maybe there is no exit strategy but i would point out that i saw was one of the guys who was instrumental in getting some of the important documentation that we have from the fed's bailout g. and there was a lot of interesting information in there so i hope he's on the case again and we'll get something interesting for the chairman and his colleagues over at the thread i guess no comment is the comment exactly so also the f o m c minutes were. released today and we take a look at some of the quotes and went through the fed's. first one and thank you to zero hedge for making our lives so easy as always they produced a version right after the minutes were released and here's a quote a

might be a very learned person like milton friedman or it might be a practical politician like a jim jordan who we are going to be hearing from later on today. and the third, the same to be missing so long on the conservative side is the institution. when philip was going through the history and heritage, one of the recurring thoughts that came to me is that they talked about missile defense, welfare reform, social security, all these issues. these are issues that come in and around washington and you have to keep refining them and reaching new audiences. you have to kind of be reselling them all the time and make the sale time after time and day after day and that's why you need an institution. you can't be a one-person blogging machine one. you have to go out and sell those good ideas. the setting vice president celebrated with us the 25th anniversary of ronald reagan 1983 with a strategic defense speech. we just had obama say yes we have to be felt strategic defenses in the northwest part of the united states. 32 years we still don't have a fully deployed missile defense system. phill ta

you have a passing acquaintances with now, your colleague congressman jim jordan said he visited the white house 118 times in 2010, and 2011, that is stunning in and of itself, by itself it means closer, but it is a somewhat closer relationship with the white house that i heard any acting irs or otherwise. >> i think mr. schulman was at the white house more than some of the employees who work at the white house, mr. schulman's memory gets very poor on things he does not want to talk about, it splendid on issues he wants to talk on. but he can't remember the conversations, he did not make a compelling witness in my judgment. lou: the committee with the rest of the house, will focussing, i know there has been attempttation. on part of the administration, and democrat to conflatea number of the issues, tax code issues even the chairman camp of ways and means wanted to talk about reforming the tax code, what the american people need here is a vast set of answers to troubling questions, and an end of the kind of conduct that your committee is examining. will we see that focus? >> gosh, i

bill: jim jordan from ohio from moments ago.e are watching this hearing here, and we are waiting for what is pretty much the moment of the morning and that's when lois learne learner invokes the fifth amendment. if she does she answers no questions that is her constitutional right. what happens after that? we await. bret baier anchor of special report with me now. good morning from washington. you've been watching this. i don't know where this goes by the end of the day. maybe we find out very soon. >> i think you're right, bill. i think the hearings have illuminated something every day. it probably won't in the case of lois learner in that we expect her to plead the fifth. that in and of itself, that visual will send a message and it will send a message to people wondering why she's doing that, self-incrimination side of that, avoiding self-incrimination, taking the fifth. the investigation will continue and congress, if they are not fired up about this already, over the last two days everything we hear on capitol hill is that

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. >>> coming up here next week, house judiciary members congressmen jim jordan and trey gouty.o bring the benghazi suspects to justice dead or alive. what was the order eight months ago? the a-team takes that up and more. doug schoen, stephen hayes are next. [beep] [indistinct chatter] [kids talking at once] [speaking foreign languagege] [heart beating] [heartbeat continues] [faint singing] [heartbeat, music playing louder] ♪ i'm feeling better since you know me ♪ ♪ i was a lonely soul, but that's the old me... ♪ announcer: this song was created with heartbeats of children in need. find out how it can help frontline health workers bring pe to millions of children at everybeatmatters.org. lou: here's how white house press secretary jay carney feels about this week's three scandals. carney last night said, quote: you're concocting scandals here that don't exist, especially with regd to the benghazi affair. end quote. a new gallup poll shows you just how far afield and out of toh carney is. a majority of americans feel que differently and strongly so. 74% of voters want the irs sc

clinton was the focus of jim jordan today, the allegation that clinton's chief of staff was angry when a state department lawyer was excluded from a classified meeting involving a congressman from the committee. let's watch the exchange today, mr. cummings. let's watch it. >> what did she have to say to you? >> she demanded a report on the individual. >> was she upset by the fact that this -- >> she was upset. >> first time it's ever happened, was not allowed to be in that classified briefing. was she upset about that fact? >> she was very upset. >> this goes right next to the person next to hillary clinton, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> here's a guy with 22 years of outstanding service to our country and now they are obstructing it because he won't help them cover this up, he's an honorable man telling the truth and now getting this kind of treatment from the very people who praised him before. >> and thanks for narrating it. the spokesman for clinton called it completely and utterly false. let me go to tommy -- no, it's not tommy. it's ginger gibson. tell me about this case

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joining us from washington congressman jim jordan from ohio who was at the hearing. what was most important thing, congressman, that you heard today? >> i think there were two key facts. first, i think it was established without any doubt that ambassador rice mislead the american people on the sunday shows. without a doubt she went out and told a different story than the facts show. >> bill: okay. let me stop you there. >> sure. >> bill: i think everybody knows that and she has apologized for that. do we know who ordered her to mislead? >> we do not know that. but, that's the other -- one of the other facts that came from this committee is even the democrats agree we need more hearings. elijah consumption says we need more people in front of this committee so we can get to the truth, get to the facts. find out who, in fact, did tell ambassador rice to go lie to the american people. we need that. >> bill: you believe it was -- i don't think they would say go lie to the american people. they would say this is the story that we feel happened. i don't think ambassador ri

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. >> let's roll aç bit of tape o congressman jim jordan, as they reject basically the administration'sthis agency, which was so calculating that he planted the question 12 days ago when ms. lerner gave the news that the irs was engaged in this targeting before the ig's report came out, so calculating they all god together and said let's do this, let's plant the question and break this story, yet they expect us to believe it was just the work of a couple employees, two rogue agents in cincinnati. >> so they're not buying it, and it seems as though this is not going to go away, the hearing you're describing today that we watched earlier. >> very much so. chairman issa says they're about ten more people he wants to either interview or bring before the committee. the inspector general says more investigation is going on. today the commit aye talked about the irs had done its sort of internal review, separate from the treasury department inspector general. that was new information that further frustrated congress. again, congress has an oversight responsibility. they say letters were sent t

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we already heard the ohio congressman jim jordan saying this is not about two rogue agents. he's claiming that the administration's trying to pin it on a couple of people at a lower level. his contention is that it's bigger than that. the investigation is still kind of unfolding to find out how high it does go. we learned from some of the irs leaders that they had been aware of some of this last year, chose not to tell congress in part because the i.g. report was not complete. >> kelly o'donnell watching that hearing on capitol hill. thank you so much. we'll continue to keep an eye on that in washington, d.c. we're here in new york, we're now going to throw it over to moore, oklahoma. chris jansing there reporting live yesterday and today. good morning to you, chris. and looks like we have some technical difficulties. chris jansing there live in moore, oklahoma, reporting on now what is day two after that what is now an ef-5 tornado touching down in what was a 10 to 20-mile long swath of an area of a very small town. chris jansing who was reporting at a location close to the

i welcome congressman jim jordan a republican from ohio who is a member of the house oversight committee. congressman, thanks for being here. you heard jay carney earlier today talking about this issue. what is your response? what do you think about these talking points? >> 12 differented its. you don't need to edit the truth, jake. 12 different times they changed this. i was thinking, i went through a few differented its when i was going to propose to my wife but it was a lot less than 12. if you're giving the truth you don't need to go through this kind of process. we just want to get to the truth. one thing the committee hearing proved this week is they knew the truth. they didn't have mrs. rice go out and say the truth. she said something different. as congressman gabby said, demonstrably false statements she made on five shows five days after the attacks proven without a doubt in the committee hearing this past week. we need to have happen what speaker boehner and mr. mcconnell requested. let's get the documents and see and let the american people say. let's get to the truth. there

chairman issa and jim jordan out of ohio are leading this investigation. but i don't have anything directly that says there was somebody else, but it does sort of boggle the mind and raise the eyebrow to suggest it was some local person in some midlevel office. as senator cornyn said, that seems implausible. >> schieffer: all right, congressman, thank you. >> it's an honor to be here. >> schieffer: hope to see you again. we'll be back with some personal thoughts about all of this in one minute. >> schieffer: you heard dan pfeiffer earlier in the broadcast say that he wasn't born when watergate happened. well, it will come as no news to anyone that i was. and when the burglars broke into democratic headquarters at the watergate, a lot of us back then found it hard to believe. why would anyone break in to a political headquarters? what did they hope to find-- bumper stickers? yard signs? nobody is dumb enough to pull a stunt like that. but they were. i admit, i had about the same reaction when i first heard the i.r.s. had gone after the tea party last year,

representative jim jordan of ohio tells "the new york times," "we're just trying to proceed at the speed you think, professor, that that fairly describes theç cal and considerate approach of speaker john boehner who says he's not interested in knowing who's responsible, he just wants to know who's going to jail? >> it's so interesting they've been critiquing this administration for overreach, but when we look over the course of this week, there has been quite a bit of overreach from those on the right around those so-called sandals. what's interesting to me, martin, the president's response to all three of these. the release of the e-mails. the firing of the head of the irs and the requests to schumer about getting the media shield law in place. seem to me to be all three very, very effective ways of addressing the scandals. and it just takes some of the wind out of the sails of some of his republican opponents who are so slighted about these things, sort of emerging at the same time. so a lot of the wind out of the sails i think have been taken out of the sort of washingtonian scandal

being done and lastly, to be honest, one of the most pest offensive parts is, my committee and jim jordan and i instigated this investigation, got the ig to do the investigation before the ig's report comes to the public or to congress as required by law. it's leaked by the irs to trial to spin the output. this mea culpa is not an honest one. the honest one is in fact, let's see the ig report. let's go through it. and then let's just like the ambassador said on the 29 changes which we agree with, let's seats what the instituted changes need to be to make this not happen again. >> chairman issa, ambassador pickering, thank very much. we're going to get reaction from the chair of the senate intelligence committee, dras dianne feinstein of california. plus the alarming number of sexual assaultses in the military. another big story this week. what should be done about it? the president weighed in this week. we'll hear what he said plus get perspective from two combat veterans, adam tin zinger of illinois and also joining us david brooks of "the new york times" and katty kay of the bbc right a

darrell issa and jim jordan are going to make the case, what did they know and when did they know t. that's going to come out. we're going to talk about this later in the show. they just flat-out lied. i'm not letting go of that. everyone is reporting it. >>> now, switching gears just slightly. how can the irs, which was targeting anti obamacare tea party groups possibly regulate obamacare? that's a question i would like to know about. so will this scandal spur a tea party and conservative resurgence, as well? let's bring into the discussion now tea party organizer and syndicated radio host tony katz. tony katz, during the last election cycle, let's say 2011 and 2012, how much did this irs assault on conservative groups and tea party groups hurt your operations, hurt the tea party? >> well, remember, it's not my operation. it's the operations of millions of americans who believe in the constitution open market's fiscal responsibility and smaller government. and the answer is, if the government is breathing down your neck, quite a bit. you ask anybody who has had to deal with an audit

jim michael jordan said what we heard on wednesday may be the beginning. he is joining other law makers and saying more hearings are necessary to get to the truth. >>i >> even the democrats say we need morement we need secretary clinton. this comes as the white white plays dependence. the official talking points are revised 12 times. the white house and state department were going to give to the public through susanne rice and drop the reference to terrorism. doug has more. >> a tough day for jay carney. the white house press cooper and not just fox gained occupy carne who strugged to find answers with the 12 revisions on the talking points. the first draft said, we do know that islamic extremist participated in the attack. the final attack that susan rice delivered on the five sunday talk shows made no mention and the remarks about the anti- islam film were not true. >> we anyhow based on the intelligence testimony that extremist were involved and there were suspicion of what affiliation they might have been but there was not concrete evidence. >> the for