larry: i got about 20 seconds with the great jim jordan and one big beautiful bill.'ll be okay on that, sir? >> e ya, get it done. we make the job too complicated and telling the voters what we'll do. getting elected. go do what you said. do what we said what president trump said and all campaigned on and like i said before, make america great. larry: home run. home run. great jim jowski r dan chairman of house -- jim jordan and chairman of the house judiciary. i'll be right back, folks with my last word. ... check in time is 3:00 it's 2:55. i know. is this what he's doing now? as your host, i have some rules. first, no showers longer than 5 minutes. this isn't a spa. no games. no fun. yes, coach. (♪) meanwhile, at a vrbo... when other vacation rentals make you share your turf with a host, try one you have all to yourself. if you have wet amd, you never want to lose sight of the things you love. some things should stand the test of time. long-lasting eylea hd could significantly improve your vision. more people on eylea hd had no fluid in the retina compared to those

after another, they are looking so bad, joining us now chair of house judiciary committee the great jim jordan. truly great. jim, i'm saying. i know different political parties, this is endless nitpicking, and replaying of the last election. and name-calling. and being rude and nasty. people look at this, you know if anyone from middle america is watching the hearings, the dems will come off looking terrible that is what i think. >> you are right, i thought pete was great yesterday, and pam did a great job today, helping one of president trump's nominee with a p prep session, they will all do well, they represent from american people voted for, on november 5 american people said weme want folks running the agency who respect the american public. that is attitude of pam bondi and pete hegseth they did well. larry: you know, just more generally, we have scott bessent tomorrow. we had russ vought, important position. budget director, like democrats are not talking about policies, they go after personalities for the most part. you know, particularly with hegseth. but just like you will -- with pam

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ralph norman, republican of south carolina, voted for jim jordan. he voted for republican byron donalds. because we have the c-span cameras in there today, we saw speaker johnson, keith self and ralph norman huddle and then walk off the floor. what do you think happened? guest: we heard from a congressman about what he thought happened. it was a conversation about what it is they need or want. it could be anything from a general promise to be a certain kind of speaker. it could be a committee assignment. we will probably find out in the days ahead what the conversation was and what promises if any were made by johnson. host: had to walk down to the well to change their votes publicly. guest: that is an important point. we had seven republicans choose not to vote when their names first came up. that met their name would be called again. when their names were called again they said they would vote for speaker johnson. because two of the three voted for a named candidate, they needed to go to the well to ask the clerk to change their vote. in some ways

jim jordan, james cole barron straight ahead. also we will talk about the last-minute pardons of joe biden we are live in our nation's capital straight ahead. >> sean: we continue live at the p mike we have a quick report about former president joe biden in the closing moments of the end administration, he issued sweeping preemptive pardons for his family and friends including dr. anthony fauci, general mark millie, and liz cheney, adam shift and each and every single one of jo's siblings which begs the question what exactly did joe thank that the people would be prosecuted for and what was he trying to hide. by the way where's the outrage from the left and the state run legacy media mob, they sure were singing a very different tune when the thought was out there that donald trump may do preemptive pardons. let's take a little trip down memory lane shall be? >> have you ever heard of somebody giving a preemptive part and who was innocent of all crime? who was an innocent person. have you ever heard of that, somebody getting up li

jim jordan, james cole barron straight ahead. also we will talk about the last-minute pardons of joe biden we are live in our nation's capital straight ahead businesses start small, but a lot of them take off. as your business grows, shipstation grows with you. so you can sync and manage all your orders... no matter how big you get. ♪ shipstation's custom automations maximize your team's time. plus, you get more carrier options, at the lowest possible rates. ♪ keep your business growing. head to shipstation.com to start your free trial today. ♪ >> sean: we continue live at the p mike we have a quick report about former president joe biden in the closing moments of the end administration, he issued sweeping preemptive pardons for his family and friends including dr. anthony fauci, general mark millie, and liz cheney, adam shift and each and every single one of jo's siblings which begs the question what exactly did joe thank that the people would be prosecuted for and what was he trying to hide. by the way where's the outrage from

jim jordan.ple are very aggressive, you know, advocates for their positions, but there is also the -- it's a new year. they are coming back from a long break and they are allowed to have their families and kids. >> absolutely. late me just say that you mentioned the people who are on the floor other than the members. until the speaker is elected and the rules package is passed, there are no rules that exist right now. >> that's such a good point, congresswoman. >> which is why -- and, look, decorum on the house floor is not what it used to be by any means. a lot of people, even if the rules were in place, break them these days. but i will say that things that you saw in the kevin mccarthy speaker battle, including almost coming to, you know, a fistfight and just really bad behavior by a lot of people, a lot of that has to do with the fact that there are no rules. people are, by the way, even members are allowed to take children under the age of 12 on the house floor anytime for votes. but you are

massie voting for emmer, self byron donalds, norman for jim jordan. those are the three and there will be pressure likely on them as we get ready for a second ballot. sandra? >> sandra: absolutely. bret, karl, if you could standby with us, karl, we are checking in with chad pergram on what he is learning. chad? >> they are kind of any stasis in the house of representatives and what i am told is there going to go to a second ballot. by rule that is what they're supposed to do. there could be circumstances where they would recess the house and come back at 4:00 or 5:00, but what i am told is there going to go onto a second ballot. we talked about the three members elect, remember they are not sworn in just yet, we talk about these members-elect, i had a rather lengthy interview with ralph norman yesterday who is going to meet with speaker johnson and said he would make his announcement today asked her how he felt about mike johnson, and i said waiting minute, what are you looking for here? he said i am looking for certain types of promises and certain d

another long-time active is congressman jim jordan. oe biden on the way out demonstrated what a complete crook he is with these preemptive pardons of immediate family following the pardon of his son. all of which i argue were done to cover up his own corruption over the decades. he pardons each generate six committee members these pelosi members all of whom could've been subject to obstruction or witness tampering given the fact they made criminal with the department of justice outside the speech and debate clause protection for his protected them. so here's my question. as chairman of the house judiciary committee you will also of the trump department of justice. the legislative and executive branch perspective, don't we need to go to the bottom of the pardons with family members? and quite frankly generate six the member symphonic who destroyed what and who ordered what? >> good to be with you. speaker johnson to set up a select subcommittee that could part of the judiciary committee. we are going to look at some the things you talked

house judiciary committee chairman jim jordan joins me. plus. time's up. tiktok goes dark. >> i have a warm spot in my heart for tiktok. >> will trump save the app? despite national security concerns? ambassador rahm emanuel on that. plus, the future of the democratic party ahead. hello. i'm dana bash in washington, and we are covering breaking news this hour. a ceasefire between israel and hamas is now in effect, and the israeli military is beginning a partial withdrawal in gaza as vehicles from the international committee of the red cross are in place in gaza, ready for hamas to hand over three hostages, all israeli civilians captured on october 7th. doron steinbrecher. romi gonin and emily damari these women have spent more than a year in captivity, and while israel is mobilized to bring them home. aid trucks are waiting at a different border crossing to bring more aid into decimated gaza. we will bring you that all live as it happens, and we are also going to look ahead to donald trump's inauguration tomorrow. his team, of course, is closely monitoring

. >> martha: coming up congressman jim jordan on the explosive zuckerberg interview.ling great lengths taken by team biden to silence covid debate. remember he said they were screaming at his people from the white house to take stuff down off of facebook. that's coming up. >> what elon did on the twitter files when he took over that company, i think jim jordan did that for the rest of the industry with the congressional investigation that he did. pursue a better you with centrum. ♪ it's a small win toward taking charge of your health. ♪ so, this year, you can say... ♪you did it!♪ are you suffering from bladder and bowel leaks? it's time to take control and talk to a physician specialist about axonics therapy. you can even try it first to see if it works for you. call this number today. stop suffering in silence. >> martha: so president biden calling mark zuckerberg's decision to end fact-checking on facebook and instagram shameful. meanwhile zuckerberg telling joe rogan the pressure facebook got from the white house during covid and the school lockdowns and all of tha

um you know that somebody like jim jordan is, is allowed to jim jordan, representatives for ohio and yes. in the house. uh yes, but, but um, but you know, there's the worries that i have and this is something that i said from the start about these tools that we discovered and the toner files is that they can be misused by anyone. and the, the sort of history of this new movement towards was like europe's digital services act or the online safety act in the you, k is, is that they're designed so that who, whoever is in power can use them. and there's going to be an enormous temptation for anybody who sits in the chair to start to toggle things up and down in a certain way. and so i do hope the trump administration resist the temptation. so we don't know that it does sound bad, optimistic, and you know the deal unless, cuz it close uh, advisor to try and so for here we go level, you'd be over the moon about this. well, i mean, you want suppressing my account. so i mean, i use is not exactly someone who is a police or repair that relationship, because yeah, i can see a startled expressi

jim jordan even agrees. we'll talk to jim in a minute. but if people understand that when you talk to members and i know there are people that are giving you a hard time and you explain this concept to them, are they open to hearing you? >> yes. everybody is. we are having family conversations. that's part of it. we're a great deliberative body. >> you throw food. >> no, no food, no, no, no pencils, but no okay. we're in these rooms with whiteboards, working it out. everybody has different ideas, but our principles are the same. we want to scale down the size and scope of government. we want to get the border secured. we want to unleash american energy again, get back to energy dominance and unleash the us economy again. we've got to make sure that we don't have the largest tax increase in u.s. history, which is what would happen if we fail in this mission by the end of this year. a lot of things on the table. but we all know that. we know how high the stakes are, and we are going to deliver for the people. >> okay. when you look at that

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a jampacked show tonight amongst my guess, congressman jim jordan, a lot of press on his shoulders toiver the president's agenda. he's as tight with 45 and 47 and he will give us the inside story of the big difference this time in the inaugural and eight years ago and to my left will be roger wicker, chairman of the armed services, what are you? >> senate armed services committee. >> a lot of pressure on his shoulders. after james was from los ang angeles, he's been through a l lot. i'm here on our nation's capital in the middle of this oocytes and sound of an operation weekend is upon us. rallies and celebrations within the next 48 hours. this one theme, he's back will argue, better than ever including him. donald trump landing in d.c. hours ago arriving at his golf club in virginia and expecting spectacular fireworks show in about 30 minutes with trump front and center will bring it to you what happens. what is different this second term? what can we expect starting monday? chairman of the house judiciary committee member of the house oversight committee and congressman jim jordan.

cast his vote for jim jordan. we know jim jordan may have wanted it the last time around. he was up for it. withdrew his name from contention when he realized there was no way he could get the speakership. byron donalds, he was the one that keith self of texas cast for. what's the likelihood that those two who got a single vote would go to those two who cast their votes for them and say, not this time around, this isn't for me. you've got to vote for johnson. >> i do know from talking to sources that there are some freedom caucus members who are pressuring both of those folks right now and saying, you need to get on board, you need to vote for mike johnson. there's moderates like dusty johnson who have been in the room as well. there's a full-out pressure campaign from all wings of the conference to get norman and self on board with johnson's speakership. it's why they haven't closed the vote. so hopeful he can clinch this thing on the first round. he took the numbers off the floor. they have been on the phones, u

he cast his lot with jim jordan. after kevin mccarthy was deposed. it's not as fractured as in my 30 years in gop politics. it's never been this chaotic and the reason why is -- very well. the republican party has surrendered its ideological core. when a party doesn't have a guiding philosophy it becomes nothing more than a mob. most of the reporting shows there's five factions, five factions, and the house gop conference right now making demands on the next speaker with a one-vote margin to hold onto that leadership. there's a good chance that mike johnson does win the votes maybe on the first or second or third vote, i don't think they will put trump in a position of not being able to have his election certified. what i will say is we've never, the last 150 years of republican party history, entered into a scenario where the leader is this weak. the chances of him survive in the first round of votes of substantive policy diminished by the day as tom massie and others exert their power, their leverage, people wake up and realize any one-vote. there

stuart: congressman jim jordan, thanks for joining us.e passed the laken riley act 64-thirty five. explain it. what happens next? >> goes to the house and the president's desk. what it is is named after the georgia college student murdered, there she is, by venezuelan migrant previously arrested. it would mandate federal detention of illegal immigrants accused of certain crimes. a dozen democrat senators backed this bill and if passed it will be one of the first major pieces of legislation, shows the prioritization of the border and safety but there's a cost to those detention centers to keeping him in detention. dhs says $27 billion. stuart: that is a lot of money. marco rubio unanimously confirmed and now sworn in as our secretary of state. where do trump's other nominee stand? donald trump will attend a national prayer service. what does jonathan morris think about trump's openness about his faith after the assassination attempts, he sitting down shaking hands, next. [sofi mnemonic] can a personal loan unlock your ambitions? oh yeah. b

more on this and more withby congressman jim jordan in a moment. first, biden's bye-bye, than isd the focus of tonight "angl" the presidents tend to be at the core optimistic. >> mt y friends, we did it. we were not just marking time. we made a difference. we made the city stronger. we made the city for year. and we left it in good hands.re >> as for me, i will leave the presidency more idealistic full of hop e than the day i arrived.ve i have confidence in america because i know the people. >> we are warm don't think optimistic about the country then started. o >> laura: i got goose bumpsth watching all of that but thentr there is biden. >> i want to warn the country of things that give me great concern. this is tha dangerous contradiction of power in the hands of a few wealthy people.he the dangerouirs consequences if abuse of power is left unchecked. today, and oligarch is ext takig shape in america of extreme wealth, power and influence that literally threatens the entireot democracy. >> laura: even the eagle on the flag behind him wanted to fl

next, congressman jim jordan is here to react.just worked with 46 democrats to pass the the laken riley act. >>> a new report, trump will go after u.s. funding for gain of function research with an executive order. this as critics are now looking into fauci's preemptive pardon wondering why it extends all the a way back to 2014. coming up, the reason revealed. dr. peter mccullough has a hot to say about that after -- a lot to to say about that after this. >> let me finish. >> -- take an animal virus and increase transmissibility to humansesome you're saying that's not gain of function? >> that is correct. and, senator paul, you do not know what you are talking about, quite frankly, and i want to say that potentially. ♪ -- officially. ♪ ♪ enjoy your risk-free trial. ♪ hello, can you hear me? i sure can! ♪ everybody hear me? i sure can! ♪ do you hear me? i sure can! ♪ so, can you hear well? i sure can! hear well, feel well, from your first appointment. try our new nearly invisible solution risk-free. call 1-800-234-7090 now. (♪) at

more on this and a lot more with congressman jim jordan in moments.ut, first, bitter biden, bye-bye. that's the focus of tonight's angle. ♪ now farewell addresses by our presidents tend to be at their core optimistic. >> my friends, we did it. we weren't just marking time, we made a difference. we made the city stronger, we made the city freer. and we left her in good hands. as for me, i will leave the presidency more idealistic, more full of hope than the day i arrived. >> i have confidence in the promise of america because i know the character of our people. >> i leave this stage tonight even more optimistic about this country than when we started. >> laura: got goose bumps watching all of that again but then there is biden. >> i want to warn the country of some things that have given me great concern. this is a dangerous con -- that's the dangerous concentration of power in the hands of very few ultra wealthy people. and the dangerous consequences if their abuse of power is left unchecked. today, an oligarchy is taking shape in america extreme weal

bill: listen to jim jordan here. you were in private business for most of the first term.rnorship 2019, so at the end of trump's first term. here's jim jordan on the sense of unity that he sees in the gop. >> everyone's behind the president. i mean, every republican. that wasn't the case eight years ago. you knew the bureaucracy was against him eight years ago, the democrats and the mainstream press, but there were republicans that weren't for him. now all republicans are for him, and you can feel the optimism. bill: so just an observation over the past 24 hours, this town someone e e bull i can't for all of the supporters -- ebullient for all the supporters. are you for a second term, and how different do you think it could be? >> well, i mean, i am super excited whenever i ran and won governor in 2018, trump inspired me. i came from the business sector. but he's right, the first term you felt a little bit of, you know, opposition the him, and i- bill: little bit? [laughter] >> well, i mean, a lot, i guess, from the media's perspective. you got right now, i believe, the r

kind of threat that's out there and you remember when jim ran for speaker, the people who opposed jim jordan got death threats at home. and i remember i had people that, you know, who didn't want to go out, call me and say, hey, you need to get out there and talk about why jim jordan's a bad candidate for speaker. you know, it's like, well, hey, can't you do that? you know, i don't need to have all the death threats as long as people like those in this room could still gather and raise voices. no hope. thank you all. i thank this incredible panel. we'd like to move on to the next one. okay okay. my my name is donna air. i'm a board member of the society for the rule of law. and i've also served about ten years in the justice department, including several years as the principal deputy solicitor general. i really. can you hear? i i really have never, never would have suspected that you would have a program where. you're actually going to have a debate. we're going to change the format here a bit and actually a debate on the question of whether the supreme court is serving rule of law effective

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counting the votes this morning, jim jordan right there behind you, smiling to our camera. so where is he? where is everyone on this vote this morning? >> yeah. good morning john. i mean, we are waiting to see what this vote count is going to be in just a couple of hours. but you can expect that speaker mike johnson is going to be working the phones, working members in his office as he is trying to get the votes, secure the votes that he needs in order to clinch that gavel. once again, just after noon today. now, we expect that there could be a series of holdouts and allies of speaker johnson have been preparing for the possibility that this could go multiple rounds. just remember, back in 2023, two years ago, then kevin mccarthy, who became the eventual speaker, he had to go 15 rounds to get that job. it was a five day battle to get the speaker's gavel, but we are waiting to see whether or not speaker mike johnson is going to be able to do this in the first round. yesterday on fox news, around 4:00, johnson was being pretty optimistic, saying he thought that they could get

jim jordan had you, mike johnson, i could continue on that line. our freshman kelly armstrong and greg steube. we took him. when i first got everybody together, what we are going to have to do be masters of procedure so we can get our points across. these people were with us. failed to look -- yet they blew it every time because their people weren't ready for them. >> we get to the intelligence committee delivers report to the judiciary committee, we hold hearings on it and i can remember the time frame of these hearings because it was a christmas party at the white house that we never made. >> exactly. >> we were stuck in committee but you get the report and we prepare in committee to deal with the report the last chance to back them down. this was the time. >> if people haven't figured out, the reason the title of the book, clock and the calendar, i said clock and calendar many times this year because i never felt it was based on facts. we have to present whatever we can because the clock and the calendar was ticking down to january 1st. january

they remember all the names that they put up, the jim jordans of the world and others who could not geto. 218 mike johnson is the sole figure in the house of representatives who can likely get to 218, but i think it's going to be a bit of a bit of a fight on the floor in the hours ahead. >> yeah, and go ahead, maria. >> i was going to say, you know, this also i think is an opportunity for democrats to not just underscore the chaos that we're going to see today regardless of what happens, but to remind americans there are 7000 votes that are the reason why republicans are in power today, right? that's not a lot. there is no mandate by any means of the imagination. and we live in a divided country where for republicans, compromise is a bad word. democrats understand that. that's how you get things done on a bipartisan basis. you have to negotiate. you have to compromise. i think that is a huge leverage point for democrats going into this big fight, and especially two years from now, when congress is going to be up for reelection again. >> yeah. i mean, when you look at the democrats, jim,

jim jordan is my counterpart on judiciary. we sponsored legislation together called the press act that i'm very proud of. i hope he's still proud of it, which protects the right of reporters not to have compulsory production of their confidential sources and their notes and documents, that passed unanimously in the judiciary committee and unanimously in the house and unfortunately after trump tweeted against it, it was held up by one or two senators in the senate, but i hope would he could continue to push that through in the interest of protecting freedom. press. you guys are not the enemies of the people as you've been called, you are the people's best friend, when you're doing your job right, you are the people's best friend. >> what do you expect jordan's focus is going to be though, right? he is coming in and endorsed trump's claims basically he's been-- the justice department has been quote, unquote weaponized and that the investigation is corrupt and prosecutor, and to use the chair of the judiciary committee to probe s

jim jordan is my counterpart on judiciary, we sponsored legislation together called the press act that am very proud of and i hope he is still part of it. which protects the rates of reporters not to have compulsory production of their confidential sources and their notes and documents. that passed unanimously in the committee, passed unanimously in the house and unfortunately, after trump tweeted against it, it was held up by one or two senators in the senate. i hope we can continue to push that through in the interest of protecting freedom of the press. you all are not the enemies of the people as you have been called, you are the people's best friend when you are doing your job right. >> what do you expect jordan's focus will be no he is coming in and has endorsed tom's claims that basically the justice department has been "weaponized against him." that the investigators were correct somehow. he sees primed to potentially use his perch as chair of the judiciary committee to probe some of these things. >> i feel like these american people are exhausted and sick of all of the right-wi

when jim banks and jim jordan refused to put their 57 members a bipartisan majority, 57 members of theted states senate voted to convict donald trump. >> republicans and democrats, regardless of the impeachment, regardless of the fact he didn't meet the constitutional standard. that's a bipartisan majority of the united states. senate. republicans and democrats thought that he should be convicted for his role in the insurrection. >> you can't tell me that. impeachment is a higher bar on purpose. >> maybe not turning the other cheek, but on the democrats who are trying to figure out how to navigate this, you got a bunch of them mayors, governors, et cetera., basically sending a signal to trump that they are willing to extend some kind of olive branch. >> listen, i call for him to come out, take a look for himself. we want to do in the spirit of an open hand, not a closed fist. he's the president elect. i respect the office. >> i have talked to key members of the incoming administration. he has absolutely been invited. he has been invited by governor newsom. supervisor barger, myself. an

28 years and some years before that, i was thinking, coming into the gym this morning, i passed jim jordan and i served with jordan 420 years and we just had nothing in common. i don't think i've changed. 20 words with him. maybe in the bad about oregon beating ohio state. but i was thinking, i mean, i'm leaving. maybe not the most famous and effective member here, but i'm leaving a body of work that has made a difference for the people i represent and people around the world with helping afghans who escaped the tender mercies of al qaida and the taliban that i did with senator mccain and senator kennedy. what we've done in terms of a of a livable communities agenda for bicycles and streetcars, making those communities more livable. agricultural reform. what i did with the restaurants rescue bill, there's a whole array of things that don't make the headlines, but they make a difference. why then, did you decide to leave it was your choice. you could have run for election. guess. yeah. people have been pretty kind to me back home. i probably could stay. but last october in a my family and i

we had we had the same conversation about jim jordan. the problem they have is it's it is a complete change of norms. it's a complete change of what we think of as america. but the salvation is there. there have been no facts. there still are no known facts. final quick point is i just want to be sure everyone understands why is this important? like why should you care about the separation of the department of justice and the white house? that is what separates us from a country that has no rule of law. so you don't sit there and say, you know what, i like nicole, so don't prosecute her for x, but i dislike this person. so investigate and prosecute them for that. the sort of like go after democrats but not republicans. that is what we think of as what happens in russia, which we are unfortunately getting more and more alike. and that is why the cabinet level position of being the attorney general is different in kind in every other administration, republican and democratic, because presidents understand that is so important to the rule o

ralph norman, republican of south carolina, voted for jim jordan.he voted for republican byron donalds. because we have the c-span cameras in there today, we saw speaker johnson, keith self and ralph norman huddle and then walk off the floor. what do you think happened? guest: we heard from a congressman about what he thought happened. it was a conversation about what it is they need or want. it could be anything from a general promise to be a certain kind of speaker. it could be a committee assignment. we will probably find out in the days ahead what the conversation was and what promises if any were made by johnson. host: had to walk down to the well to change their votes publicly. guest: that is an important point. we had seven republicans choose not to vote when their names first came up. that met their name would be called again. when their names were called again they said they would vote for speaker johnson. because two of the three voted for a named candidate, they needed to go to the well to ask the clerk to change their vote. in some ways

big money show expanding to two hours and starting at a new time today. 12, noon eastern and jack jim jordane with us. what's coming up on the big money show today. >> stuart, we're excited and getting bigger from 12-2 and dagen mcdowell on board as well and so excited about that and special guest charles payne and larry kudlow. what we're going to do is start off by getting into a deep dive on deepseek. it's obviously a big market mover for tech and the overall broader markets but there are national security implications here and foreign policy for trump administration as well and we'll dissect the story and a company you've never heard about but need to know about moving forward, stuart. stuart: we'll take it. jackie, thank you very much -- jacqui, thank you very much. heavy rain in california and raising concerns of possibility of mudslides. william la jeunesse, how are you prepared for mudslides? >> you hope for the best and that happens, stuart and the fear going into the weekend and mentioning that it was flash flooding through 4:00 today. that didn't happen. we got about 1 inch of rai

jim jordan think that he has the votes? if he doesn't, will he stepped in to replace the speaker? halliday a good champ, a preview of the nascar season. we have a big friday show coming up. we will see you at the top of the hour. ♪ ♪ ♪you did it!♪ is >> todd: one of the victims in the new orleans terror attack being remembered this morning not just for his talents on the field but also as a loving brother and son. martin beck known to everyone as tiger princeton 2018. on new years tiger was in throz hunt and fish with college friends and supposed to fly home on new year's day. >> ashley: terry is the aunt of tiger bech joins us now. my heart goes out to you and everyone else affected by this horrible tragedy. as todd just said he was there to hunt and fitch with his friends. that is something that so many people can resonate with. people go to have a good time and rest. especially the new year. tell us about tiring. what did you love about him? what do you want the world to know about him? >> first of all, thank you so very much for having me. i appreciate y'all giving me the chan

you'll have more pressure from rand paul on the fauci front, jim jordan, et cetera. you can't take the 5th because you have been pardoned. you can't have a situation to escape consequence of lying under oath, it does not address forward things. how are people lobbying especially from president who has been adled, mentally absent at times. >> lawrence: the moment is divisive. why go out like this. he said he would heal the country. what does donald trump need to do in the speech to start the process healing the country? >> as former speech writer myself, the thing he needs to do is bring in americans who would not tune in last night. people who do not feel they were pare of the trump team, who now, when we look at fox news polls, they indicate more americans are supporting donald trump than voted for him in this election. he has support of enormous amount of americans he up with catholic vote after halved it. inviting them to come in is what he can achieve with this speech, saying look, we may have had our division in the past, we've seen what came out of this person