under governor jim kane. he is a nice guy. i do not have any -- governor jim kane. -- tim kaine. i do not have any interactionth. >> they send signals to 15% of homes that rely on over the air broadcasting. the at&t and t-mobile proposal argues that they can do more by combining the two companies's spectrums than either can do alone. is there spectrum being held by other commercial wireless companies that have larger bands and are more concentrated? should they be invited to take part in these auctions? >> we are having these discussions. when the iphone debut in 2007, the applications started to gobble up much of the airwaves. anyone who is going to use and i fall in new york, they have a problem. the-iphone -- iphone in new york, they have a problem. the carriers said they need more spectrum. your question is a great question. themselves at put thei a competitive disadvantage. there is a market incentive for carriers not to wear out in spectrum, but to use it. spectrum, but to use it.

committee, because tim kane is expected to announce his own plan to seek the senate seat held by -- tim kaine is expected to announce his own plan to seek the senate seat now held by jim webb. what is happening to the dnc? guest: early on, ted strickland, the highly-regarded former governor of ohio, who appealed to the rural voters, the middle midwest, seemed like a pretty safe pick a couple of weeks ago. we've been hearing that debbie wasserman schultz, a somewhat younger, more energetic, fund- raising powerhouse from miami really came to the forefront. at the moment, they are the two top candidates. then we learned, in the course of reporting this story, my colleague and myself, that the white house, including messina and the president himself, have sort of asked to cast a slightly wider net. they want to see if they can come up with any out of the box candidates. it is a mystery third candidate. we were not able to determine who that is. it is part -- pretty tightly held. we're quite likely to have a tim kaine announcement without having a real idea of who the dnc chair person will be. host: glenn thrush, covering politics and the white house. the story is availabl