joining us from san francisco is nbc's jake ward and nbc news terrorist analyst jim kavanaugh. jim is a retired aft special agent in charge and hostage negotiator. first, jake, this is a violent assault with a hammer against the 82-year-old husband of the speaker in line for the succession, of course. what other details do we know? >> reporter: we know at this point that at 2:27 a.m., the house you see behind me here was the scene of a violent assault against the speaker of the house's husband. he was attacked by a hammer by an assailant who is in custody. police do expect later this hour to give the press more details, presumably, about who that suspect might be and what their motivations might have been. we know at this point that paul was transported to the hospital. that's the critical care and trauma facility of san francisco. he suffered blunt force injuries. sources in the hospital say those injuries were mostly to his face and that they are not life-threatening. he is expected to make a full recovery. we have been seeing all morning investigators come and go, not just fr

hope >> here to discuss all of this, is jim kavanaugh, msnbc analysts, retired with -- a former hostageher goldsmith, an intelligence in extremism and disinformation analyst. good morning gentlemen to, both of. you janet like to start with you first. what is it about the current political environment that is permitting these violent threats to multiply, and in some cases, to actually turn into actual violence? >> well, it's a whole host of things really, katie. certainly, with the internet it has changed, society over the years, the acceptance of the political violent top that is supported by politicians. they wink and nod, they talk about second amendment solutions and they wink at violence, and they have some the members of congress or other political figures who deny the truth of the election. disinformation. crack hot considers bees, to an on with. this permeates society, and it grabbed people like this attacker and turns in this way. but, this is not new to america. i remember, as a young person, and right before i went on to uniformed police, that we had a ten-year period in the 6

. >> first of all, because i think it is a fascinating point that jim makes, but also because he's talking about comments kavanaugh made before he was on the bench, i believe he is referring to kavanaugh's -- i said that he thought nixon v. united states was wrongly decided. and that, of course, that is the ultimate gamble in a delay by the ex president. but that would be a decimation of precedent. >> guess what? we are all going to say. we will see soon enough. thank you all, i appreciate it. the former president says that he does not think herschel walker's complicated personal history is a problem. he told maggie haberman why, and she is here, next. ave like rachel here how am i looking? looking good! the most cautious driver we got am i there? no keep going how's that? i'll say when now? is that good? lots of cars have backup cameras now you know those are for amateurs there we go like a glove, girl (phone chimes) safe driving and drivewise can save you 40% with allstate click or call for a quote today >> tech: at safelite, we take care of vehicles with the latest technology. we can replace your windshield ...

jim, it is something i worry about. you know, we were talking during commercial break this has politically happened on both sides to some degree. i want to be fair in that regard >> yeah, brett kavanaughboth sides it's true. i wanted to be more war of words. let's bring it back to war of words. >> civil society. >> andrew, i'm all set to talk about all sets of stocks you stopped me in my tracks. i feel it, too i don't want to feel it anymore. i want to go back to say the industrials are better than the tax. right now, that's overwhelming >> maybe they won't be by monday >> yeah, i know. >> industrials that's a good point. >> let me ask you something. industrials have been through worse. you know when it is time to cut and knows when it is time to add. people in silicon valley are learning the word fire has more to do with what is going on. they have to fire. i think it is hard for them, andrew they don't know how to do it >> jim, we have to run i know we will see you in a minute apple and amazon you want to own them right now >> apple is good and amazon is over done on the down side. >> thanks, jim see you in a couple minutes. >>> joining us right now to wrap up a big week for earning