jim kenney, coming from council, has a great relationship. and, in fact, darrell clarke basically endorsed him right before the primary. is that a plus? >> unfortunately, not necessarily because i think they will work together. but the question is, will they work together on the right things, on the right things for the common good? and that's where there's a huge question mark. when you had him on "inside story" two weeks ago this gets to sam's point about being able to say, "no, he deserves a lot of credit for building a wide coalition," right? but when you get all that support, when you govern, you have to be able to say to your supporters, to your political benefactors, "no, you know, your special interest is not in the interest of the common good." and is he going to be able to do that? when he was here, he said -- the question put to him was, "will you stand up to your union supporters when you govern?" and he said, "well, i wouldn't use the word 'stand up.' we got to cooperate." and i think that was a signal that he's not gonna do what