it is jim koch. good to have you on the program. >> nice to be here.. >> thank you for bringing the beer. let's pour some beer. you started brewing sam adams beer in your kitchen in 1984. tell me how that happened. how did you decide you wanted to brew your own beer in the kitchen? >> i come from six generations of brewmasters, so beer was in my history, in my blood about .06. it was still legal. i knew how to home brew because i had done it with my dad. i had an idea of starting a small brewery that would make high-quality beer here in the united states. not competing with big, mass producers but making crafted, small batches of beer and that was sam adams. >> tell me how you are supporting new entrepreneurs today. >> it's still a small business in a way. we live in this business where the bud, miller and coors of the world are giants. we are the most successful craft brewery but that means we are the tallest pygmy. we are 1%. we with remain a small business. i wanted to reach out and help other small businesses as part of our community responsibility

jim pierce, travis mckinney, and larry wagner, who were quoted in the story. all three could be fired, perhaps legally, for releasing confidential information about koch industries can you talk about how that worker was disciplined and the whole social media policy and code of conduct that you discovered? >> travis mckinney, what happened, and a lot of different situations, travis would be told by his boss there were monitoring his facebook, that he is putting up too much about koch industries. we went for his evaluation, he scored 3.7 out of four, but denied a promotion and it said in his evaluation that he talked too much about politics in the workplace. for travis' say, he felt his been signaled out for his views. with the social media policy, this is incredibly restrictive. it says it worker can be fired for completely non-work related things. first off, the union feels the social media policy is illegal. one, social media policies as the national labor act defines it, [indiscernible] they feel it infringes upon the rights of unions to talk about matters that they need to in order to fight for unions. i talked with some legal experts, even pro-union legal ex