and then guy named jim langford, who was at the time in charge for the trust for public lands, somebody approached him and said they wanted help turning the sort of derelict land south of this big ol' derelict sears building on response -- on ponce deleon avenue, and you could relief flooding, building a retention pond there. he thought that was great idea. the belt line was all in the news, the idea of it. look at the map, it goes up to piedmont park, it goes through piedmont park. if we build this part down here and, oh, look, this other little park down here in this neighborhood. he realized it connected a bunch of parks. why not make it a greenaway? make it a linear park that connected parks? he hired alexander garvin, a world famous city planner, who i also got to know through this, to come down here to try to figure out what kind of parks you could have. and atlanta is severely underparked. we have a lot of trees in this city, beautiful trees, but most of them are in people's backyards. most of them are not in public places. in metro atlanta, which is this huge sprawling mess of s