okay, right to jim laurie, your writings on the afghanistan and of course vietnam there must read for anyone trying to get a handle on what's happening right now. i really appreciate your time talking to us here on our team, but you well, this is our p as we continue our full news, hour and anger over the destruction and ask honest on has reached american shores as well, with people pouring onto the street to protest against the taliban seizing power rallies broke out. both the east and west coasts. from l. a. to washington, dc with demonstrators chanting free, afghanistan, and biden, you betrayed us. they also demanded that the white house helps struggling afghan population and comes as politicians across nato. member states blamed the united states and joe biden, in particular for the fall of afghanistan. 3rd quarter looks at the mounting and go 20 years of occupation. more than 2 trillion dollars spent hundreds of thousands dead. it's half the price tag only to get a humiliating defeat and botched evacuation in return. naturally the president had some explaining to do to the americ

we also spoke to right journalist and broadcast, the jim laurie who covered vietnam and to africa was he shared with us his thoughts on the us evacuation from carbo, comparing it with the draw them from the side gone back in 1975. i think that corruption, though, is a major factor and what we saw today the me, in many ways the mission should have ended up a lot of was killed. that was the purpose. unfortunately, whatever america gets involved in foreign wars, they have a tendency to want to rebuild the nation. sometimes in the model of the way americans think things should be. i'm not saying this building is not a good thing, but it's almost in unachievable thing. it seems to me, if you, if you try to put it in terms of the way american c, a nation and the way it ought to be run on. the issue now is we're the americans prepared to get people out really getting them out fast enough. the answer is no where they prepare back in 1975. they were also not prepared to scramble and they basically avoid all the bureaucracy. the american bureaucracy is much more complicated today that it was in

jim laurie the author of the book the last helicopter and could not have a better guest today on the et your general thoughts about what you saw in the last few days and what you remember from your time covering vietnam. >> what is happening in afghanistan this last seven days is like vietnam, cambodia at warp speed. it is all collapsing much more quickly. we at least had in vietnam 55 days to watch the unraveling of the south vietnam east effort there. we had the frantic 24 hours at the very end, 29 to 30 of april 1975 when i was there and that, of course, was tragic just in the same way that the tragedy has unfolded in the last 48 hours in kabul. the greatest tragedy, of course, leaving so many good people behind, being forced to leave them behind. in vietnam we were able to get out all of our journalists who worked for us and wanted to get out. the american embassy got out more than 5,000 vietnamese in 18 hours. they got out another 35,000 vietnamese in the previous three weeks. so it was not a totally unmitigated disaster. the hope, of course, is that the united states can get mor

jim laurie, thank you so much for your time, and for providing some perspective on all of this for usou, ana. >>> thank you all for joining us. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 1:00 eastern. in the meantime, you can follow me on twitter, @anacabrera. our coverage continues next with alisyn and victor. to make my vision a reality my varilux progressive lenses provide seamlessly transition from near to far. with every detail in sharp focus. that's seeing no limits. varilux lenses by essilor. ♪ ♪ we're carvana, the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100% online. now we've created a brand-new way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. what makes new salonpas arthritis gel so good f