>> commissioners, jim lazarus san francisco chamber of commerce, i appreciate your comments on this very complicated issue and the involvement of many of you on the commission and efforts that we have to bring a broad cross-section of the business community together. obviously this has impacts on small businesses, but impacts larger businesses in the city as well. i thought it was kind of ironic talking about protecting small business in formula retail, which of course is supported by so many supervisors and yet, they had no real constraints perhaps politically on higher minimum wage mandating health care spending and things that really jeopardize the future of small business on a daily basis in san francisco. and to argue that minimum wage can be set in a vacuum without having an economic impact is just not believable. san francisco had 600,000 jobs in 2000. there was a run-up during the dot com boom and lose almost 80,000 jobs in a couple of years by 2004. down to 520,000 with the run-up to 2007, we never got back to 600,000 jobs and it wasn't until last year that we got this city back

about the purpose of the meeting and everyone was asked to be open and honest about their opinions. jim lazarusm san francisco chamber of commerce, said on the disappointment with the america's cup 34 and the amp [inaudible] jobs and business opportunities. he was repeatedly stated that minority communities, african-american and hispanic in particular, were not responding to the ports are these because it was a foregone conclusion that the same good old boys would win the contacts. so, there's a feeling of mistrust with the cities bidding process is something that we really really need to overcome and pres. katz, dir. morehead and myself along with vp adams, all committed to working with the chamber and their members to change this perception about providing technical support mentioning and more opportunities for purchasing under proposition q. what also to be more inclusive of the lg bt community. we received a lot of great feedback and ideas to help with the establishment of clear channels of communication and timely alert some of the business opportunities and how we can better work together

and as jim lazarus said the commission does not see that the way that the businesses have been utilizing the hras as a loophole but as a means of really trying to deal with complying with the high cost of healthcare that the insurance companies they are not previously up until 2014, with the aca were not charged for businesses. and also, i think, you know, the commission had representation on the universal healthcare council and the business community was there and we were all in agreement with the goals and really want to work on trying to find a solution. to really work to the most effective means of finding a solution to really get to i think, the target population that you are trying to address today. although, the expenditure and the mandated spending requirement, in light of what is as a loophole >> i mean, as, and it is not... >> i mean no, it is not a loophole, the money was there for the employees to use and access and for the majority of the businesses, individuals did just that. and you know, with even with the city's mra, but didn't have 100 percent utilization, with the citi