to wealth manager jim lecamp and rick ungar and noelle mcpore. i own no stock in any of the entities, i am saying it's weird. that's all. it's just weird. >> neil, you look at the crime scene, it has the government's dna and the government's fingerprints all over it. you create fannie and freddie mac in congress, and what happens? you drive out all other private mortgage insurers, you ruined the industry and they're funded by endless taxpayer dollars. they make bad loans and nobody cares, no recourse, no recourse for making bad decisions in washington. so you drive out all the other business, fanny and freddie take some of that money, gives it to politicians like barney frank and barack obama who was senator at the time, and the cycle starts. then you force the marriages with the companies and then you start fining them. none of this makes sense whatsoever. the government has their hands all over. this barney frank suggest at one point if you didn't make subprime loans then you're a racist. this is a hysteria that the government was involved in,