responsibility for cybersecurity and questions about russian cyber intrusions i think i spotted jim lewis the audience. not retaliating for the cyber attacks becomes a green light. that's something the government can be doing. should they retaliate on the consensus? >> the way that i look at it i think the defense department and the intelligence community should provide the decision-making tools and they should say you have all these ways to respond through milita military. the whole government approach and cyber is one of them. i believe giving the president and national security council the options to say you can choose if you will do it over and based on your belief, who is constitutionally elected here's the options you have to figure out the best way to do it. if you attack -- they attack we attack back. >> do yo >> do you agree on that argument that not retaliating or not responding is a green light? >> i would say different. the government chooses how to respond by all those tools and i think that my experience in both administrations is when the doors are closed and you are aroune

jim, back over to you. >> thank you, katie, appreciate t98.1wogl annual radiothon for children's hospital of philadelphia coming up next week. joining me now, from wogl radio valerie knight, frank lewis, my friends from the breakfast club. welcome, welcome. >> thank you, thank you. >> so, explain to people. because i go every year, and i'm taking some of the calls, where do the donations go? how do they help the kids in their family? >> 100% of the donations stay in philadelphia, we love, that because it is our community effort. our donations in particular go to art therapy, pet therapy talking about dogs, how much we love our dogs, child life department, group of people not medical but help the kids be kids while they're in the hospital by, you know playing with them, talking to them, we're real proud of that. >> big word, frank! >> yes. >> significantly. >> frank, it is an emotional time. when i get over there, i watch, because the kids are all around, coming in for face painting and stuff like that how has it affected you? >> jim, we used to do it from different locations, different malls in the area, taken on whole new life since we actually started doing the radiothon at the chi

lewis, et cetera, like the good stories. but no one touches upon the extreme horror stories or draws upon the fact that many of hitler's nuremberg laws were drawn from jimcrow laws. i would say that while they did gain -- they did have some gains, it was primarily symbolic because even today we don't -- america has not accepted the fact that during this time, although we weren't nearly as bad as hitler that we did not represent the values that we were fighting for. >> so you really see this more as a moment of continuity, that thing there's not dramatic change happening here? >> i think it's even the loss because we were saying that we were fighting for these things. >> uh-huh. okay. danielle? >> i think the book said in the end of chapter 5 developments in the wake of world war ii started to reverse the white supremacists and states rights to status quo. so i think that while it wasn't like a blatant obvious okay, we've done things wrong and really need to change, think it really was the tipping point of the changing in the south because i think it's the point that people realize that like things can't state way that they are and people were drawing mo

ann lewis, white house communications director for president bill clinton and former senior adviser for hillary clinton in washington, and we have former virginia governor and former rnc chair jim. you heard what marcus was saying about south florida. what do you think? >> you won't be surprised i'm giving a very different vibe. we were around this weekend checking in on volunteer staging stations and went to staging, volunteer stations that had lines out the door of people that wanted to volunteer. south florida, that includes palm beach, broward and dade counties, is going to be very strong for hillary clinton. she's going to get a really large margin. you look at the early vote, for me, again, look at the enthusiasm level, look at the number of volunteers. i think as i look at this, it is three things going on. one is high enthusiasm for the candidate. second, this is a campaign that is really well thought out and well organized and, third, we had large -- really surprisingly large number of volunteers, so almost like a perfect storm. >> ann, this is marcus. you're referring to south florida as a whole. i like to think about it as a whole. there is a clear line you cross 595