jim mccord. jim mccord had given an alias when he was arrested because he knew he would be traced immediately, and wanted to seal his relationship to the commission to re-elect the president. and bob mardian made a phone call to get him out of jail before his identity would be discovered. he participated in drafting a false press release. i think those things are up there as the slides go through. so there is a prior question of criminal conduct before he became the lawyer for creep. maybe we'll talk about that after we get the answer to the question for everybody. but i wanted to put it in context. so jim? >> i find any time somebody on c-span uses the word epistemology, i turn it off. because i don't know what it means. actually, let me start off by saying that arnie has been a key part of what john and i have been doing in our watergate cle. when we first started looking at this, we used an article he wrote "called enron, watergate and the regulation of the legal profession" and it's a wonderf

because one of the men arrested happened to be the head of security at the reelection committee, jim mccord. so it starts right at that moment and quickly unfolds that first week. what really cast the die, i happened to have been personally in manila giving a graduation speech. made my first mistake when i came home. but i did and went in the office on monday. i got a call from mcgruder, amongst others. mcgruder said, you've got to talk to gordon litty. i said, you talk to him. he said, i can't talk to him. he threatened to kill me. so i met with litty and learned from litty, who confesses the whole thing to me that not only has he been involved with watergate, but two of the men in the d.c. jail as part of his team were involved in an earlier operation on behalf of the white house to break into daniel elsburg's psychiatry office. it's right at that moment that i realized we've got really big problems and i don't have a clue what to do with them. my predecessor, john ehrlichman, who had been white house counsel, one of the things i said to him very early in the conversations after reporting