congressman jim mcgovern today.the chairman of the rules committee, the rules committee at a hearing today to work out the details for tomorrow's vote in the full house of representatives on whether or not steve bannon will be referred to the justice department for contempt of congress. he is refusing to deal with the investigation into what happened on january 6th. the committee investigating voted unanimously to recommend that he should face criminal contempt charges. tomorrow afternoon there will be a full vote in the full house and then the justice department if -- will have to decide whether or not they are in fact going to prosecute steefr bannon. there were witnesses, one of the panels of witnesses compromised of two of president trump's most loyal defenders in congress. congress matt gaetz and jim jordan. p they were there to speak in defense of president trump but instead they spent most of the time trying to just throw sand in the gears and derail the entire meeting. talking about border crossings and afgh

rules committee chairman jim mcgovern used jim jordan to show why steve bannon and other trump allies oath to the january 6th committee. >> he said and i quote, i've talked to the president so many i can't remember all the days i've talked to him but i've certainly talked to the president, end quote. the next day on july 28th, you confirmed to spectrum news that you spoke with the former president on january 6th. when asked by a spectrum news reporter taylor popolars whether you spoke to the president before, during, or after the capitol's attack, you said, and i quote, i spoke with him that day after, i think, after, i don't know if i spoke with him the -- in the morning or not. i just don't know. i'd have to get back to you. i don't know when those conversations happened, end quote. >> yep. >> so my question is you've had 84 days since that interview to go back and check the records. so when did you speak with the former president on january 6th? did you talk to the former president before, during, or after the attack on the capitol? >> of course i talked to the president -- of cour

way of contrast in 2019, that bill that passed the house had 47 bipartisan cosponsors including jim mcgovern. in 2014, far too many people in washington felt that hong kong with its greater freedom and free-trade principles would somehow bring china in a liberating direction. such hopes proved illusionary. just as some american business leaders naively believed that delinking trade with human rights in 1994 would somehow help the chinese communist party matriculate from a brutal dictatorship to a democracy. there are those who thought if there was a sentient into wto, they would practice rule of law more effectively. i had two hearings in this room that would counter that argument that we have to be careful they don't change the wto not the other way around. in march of 2019, the hong kong government proposed extraditing alleged criminals to china. raising fears that dissidents could be sent to mainland china. hong kong's government and the police force begin to closely resemble that of mainland china and its response to legitimate protests, speech, and assembly. powers awakened to the chang

that same day, jim mcgovern's bill placing restrictions on teargas exports and crowd control technologyo hong kong also passed with me as the lead cosponsor. congress spoke with a unified voice. the trump administration gave a lot teeth declaring that hong kong was no longer sufficiently autonomous such as to warrant been treated -- the trump administration also sanctioned key officials chinese government. 42 chinese government and police officials have been sanctioned pursuant to trump's executive order. more importantly, in many ways carrie lam was a figurehead, the trump administration sanctioned to individuals who are xi jinping's hatchet man. the secretary for security and the former secretary of security and current chief secretary. both of these men need to be better known throughout the world for the purposes of being held accountable. they more than anyone else except for xi jinping himself responsible for the demise of human rights in hong kong. beyond the names of those who should be called to task are those we must remember for their valiant defense of freedom. we are to rem

massachusetts congressman jim mcgovern.was in charge of the proceedings in the house or the speaker's absence. it was the last to be evacuated in that day. it was in the room when officers were barricade in the door when off protesters try just physically smash their way inside. mcgovern talk today about what he saw in those last moments in the house chamber. what >> i was the last person off the floor on january six. i came face to face with these people in the speakers gallery, i will tell you if you want me to describe what evil looks like, it's looking into those faces, in those people, while three police officers were in front of the door trying to protect us they were smashing the windows open to get at people. the fact that somehow asking questions about trying to figure out why this happened, who is responsible, that that is a bad thing. give me a break. >> give me a break. congressman jim mcgovern today, in his capacity as the chairman of the rules committee, the rules committee had a meeting today to work out the

also you have she garcia, covers member from chicago, covers member jim mcgovern of massachusetts, as number of people from amnesty international, law students for climate accountability. talk about the significance -- you have so many supporters at this point at high levels, yet talk about what is at stake. what it is you exposed in ecuador. >> i think the stakes are high. he goes way beyond me personally. on a personal level, it hurts. i have a wife and a 15-year-old son. we are hurting. but what is really happening here is chevron and these two judges and allies of the fossil fuel industry are trying to use me as a weapon to intimidate activists and lawyers who do this front-line work of defending the planet. what is at stake, not only my freedom, but what is at stake is the ability to advocate for human rights in our society. the things i was charged with -- i was a lawyer litigating various court orders for years, ethnically. i am proud -- ethically. i'm proud of my work. this judge went after me. the only lawyer to be charged with contempt of court for challenging a discovery or

today jordan who was questioned by committee chairman jim mcgovern and who has given conflicting accountsl how many times he spoke to the former president that day. >> i talked to him that day. i have been clear about that. i don't recall the number of times. but it's not about me. i know you want to make it about that. >> joining us now, house select committee member and house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff. democrat of california author of "midnight in washington: how we almost lost our democracy and still could." congressman schiff, what does it say to you these republican members of congress are basically saying it's okay to ignore a congressional subpoena? even if you don't think steve bannon did anything, even if you don't think this whole thing should go forward, this is a lawful congressional subpoena. members of congress for them to not even back up congressional power is extraordinary. >> it is extraordinary. and it really defies the expectation of the founders that members of the congressional branch would defend their own institution. that ambition could be made t

everything the house representatives votes on must first pass through the rules committee chaired by jim mcgovernear from the top democrat, and top republican on whatever house committee has passed a bill for their consideration. because the january 6th committee unanimously voted to recommend criminal prosecution of stephen and for defying the subpoena, there was no one from the january six committee to represent the opposition at the rules committee hearing today, and so house republican leader kevin mccarthy and yet another attempt to set up jim jordan for public humiliation extreme public humiliation. jim jordan to present the republican opposition to the criminal prosecution of steve bannon, jim -- to show why steve bannon and other trump allies are afraid of having to testify under oath to the january 6th committee. >> he said and i quote, i've talked to the president so many i can't remember all the days i've talked to him. but i've certainly talked of the president. next day on july 28 you confirmed to news that you spoke to president on january six. -- whether you spoke to the president

and once we do that, you go in the store, as jim mcgovern, the chair of the rules committee, we go in the restaurant, we buy the steak, need to pay for the steak. and the argument, madam speaker, of, oh, well, you're proposing a lot of spending in the future, totally unrelated. the debt limit is caused by the debt that we already incurred. two bills that we have don't affect the debt limit. we've met it now. not when we pass the billed. not when we make that commitment. we have a debt limit coming up on december 3, which was totally irrespopsable, for political purposes only, ends with the funding of government. at that point in time it didn't hurt inflation, i've been amazed over the year, the last 10 years, we haven't had more inflation. for a number of reasons. but he didn't answer the question whether he'd help on that. that's not for us, it's not for republicans or democrats. it's for our country. frs our economy. it's for global fiscal stability. i would hope at least in this area, not for us, i'm not asking you to do it for me. i'm not asking anybody to do it for me or for my p

a bill that passed the house had a 47 bipartisan cosponsors including my friend and colleague jim mcgovern. in 2014, far too many people in washington felt that hong kong with its greater freedom and free-trade principles would somehow talk to the peoples republic of china and a liberating direction. they had the basic law and many could serve as a model for greater respect for the rule of law in china one day. such hopes proved illusionary. the justice of the business leaders naÏvely believed linking trade with human rights in 1994 would somehow help them matriculate from a brutal dictatorship to a democracy and in that manner there are those who thought by the wto they would practice the rule of law more effectively. i had two hearings in the room that counter to that argument that we've got to be careful that they don't change the wto. in march of 2019, as we all know, the hong kong government posed extraditing knowledge of the criminalscr to china raising fear that political dissidents could be sent to face charges over their basic freedoms. the government and police force began closel

and once we do that, you go in the store, as jim mcgovern, the chair of the rules committee, we go in the restaurant, we buy the steak, need to pay for the steak. and the argument, madam speaker, of, oh, well, you're proposing a lot of spending in the future, totally unrelated. the debt limit is caused by the debt that we already incurred. two bills that we have don't affect the debt limit. we've met it now. not when we pass the billed. not when we make that commitment. we have a debt limit coming up on december 3, which was totally irrespopsable, for political purposes only, ends with the funding of government. at that point in time it didn't hurt inflation, i've been amazed over the year, the last 10 years, we haven't had more inflation. for a number of reasons. but he didn't answer the question whether he'd help on that. that's not for us, it's not for republicans or democrats. it's for our country. frs our economy. it's for global fiscal stability. i would hope at least in this area, not for us, i'm not asking you to do it for me. i'm not asking anybody to do it for me or for my p