jim mcneary of boeing has been a great counselor.oward from starbucks, he was one of my board members at ebay. emily: what kinds of things have they said? meg: turnarounds are difficult. howard did one at starbucks. i read his book and we compared notes. emily: you mentioned that you would grab a coffee with the ebay ceo who is going through this. did you grab the coffee and how did it go? meg: has done a great job and i am proud of john. it turned out that we were splitting the companies. at the same time. what are the chances? we compared notes through the process. what was he learning? what could we both do better? emily: top one revenue has declined for the last 15 quarters. when does hp get back to growth? where do you see the growth coming from? ♪ emily: top line revenue has declined for the last 15 quarters. where do you see the growth coming from? meg: we have made progress on this dimension from the single-digit declines to flat to down 1%. which is not what we aspire to but is such an improvement over four years ago. i woul