and for that, a "this week" first, jim messina and karl rove join our powerhouse roundtable.h donna brazile, peggy noonan and "nightline" anchor terry moran. karl, let me begin with you, 5:00 a.m., the senate passes a budget. the house has already passed a budget. very stark differences between the two, everyone waiting for president obama to weigh in on this. i guess my question to you is, despite those stark differences, do you see this as the beginning of negotiations toward a compromise? >> i frankly take this as a constructive sign. it gives the guidelines for the senate to go pass appropriations bill. under what's called protection. they don't require 16 votes. and this sets up, then, the normal flow of congress. with house passing the budget with less spending. senate democrats passing a budget with more spending and

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jim messina our campaign manager -- fundraising is what we do. everyday we see where we are. but the whole campaign was doing that. mitch, stewart, jeremy, everyday they say how many phone calls we made. we hear it every morning with our senior staff. it mattered and think we started measuring the one on one contact very early. we started in 2007 and 2008 and carried over some of it into the d.n.c. >> that was a brilliant thing about the obama campaign, much of that activity never ended. it continued and governor romney became the nominee at the convention but he was really the presumed nominee probably in april or may. you really have a five year period to build up and to use this data versus a six month period of time. this is where i think a conversation has to take place and hopefully the republican party, think the republican party did a good job of getting themselves out of debt and being able to have an infrastructure ready to go for governor romney. there was no real data. there was nothing -- other than being able to get people to write larger check, it wasn't availa

jim messina was the president's campaign manager and now the national chairman of organizing for action. good morning, jim. >> good morning. >> so many people are saying this is the kind of thing that president obama will be the first person to criticize republican supporters for and that it sounds like giving people an opportunity to pay for access. >> look we're a grassroots organization filled with volunteers across the country coming together with one single mission to help pass the president's common sense agenda that will move this country forward. in the first month of our organization already 946,000 americans have taken action through ofo and that's the grassroots effort that we need toe do a simple thing which is change the political process. >> jim, it's clear that people who contribute to this are promised some ability to come to the white house and meet with the president. >> no that's not true. this organization is being fueled by grassroots contributions across the country. the average donation was $51. the president will do what he did during the campaign which is commun

jim messina of the president's campaign manager, who is now involved in ofa, put out an op-ed and heed to clarify that, that these meetings would not be opportunities to lobby the president, rather they would be briefings from the president to people who were interested in his agenda. does that comfort you? >> it's a good baby step in the right direction, but it's still getting the president connected to super-donors rather than the president connected to the grass roots. we want to see the president take the lead on reform and jim messina is trying and i think some of what common cause and the good government groups have done, have forced the opportunity for organizing for action to backtrack a bit, but still, wealthy donors are going to be a key. all of these access meetings, including what's going to happen next week are suspect because of the optics of how this organization was formed. the president needs to recognize, and you were right. in '08 the president said i'm not taking presidential public financing, but i plan to fix it in my first term. it wasn't fixed and so you saw r

. >> jim messina, we'll leave it there. thank you, sir. >> thank you, sir. >> the president is scheduled to speak at 11:40 eastern. when that happens, we will carry it for you live right here on msnbc. coming up, is doma doomed? we're going to talk about the political impact. also, ashley judd's decision. she not running for senate. where does that leave mitch mcconnell? and developing news from south africa, former president nelson mandela back in the hospital, battling another lung infection. we'll go to south africa to get an update on his condition straight ahead. i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health risks. so i'm doing fine... but she's still going to give me a heart attack. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's hea

. >> jim messina, a lot of resistance from democrats including senator reid. you saw mayor bloomberg right there, he'll be advertising in both democratic and republican districts, you know, you work with organizing for action, the president's super pac, are you going to target ads against democrats as well as republicans on this issue? >> look, we're going to reach out to members on both sides of this. there's a clear consensus in the states on this issue. we're absolutely going to talk to members of both parties. >> but you'll be advertising in democratic disdistricts? >> we'll figure out what advertising it. last week, we had over 100 events across the country. we had over 1 million volunteers in the first month alone, getting involved on this and other issues. we'll subtly be advocating on the president's agenda. >> karl rove, we see the national rifle association. >> if you say we should keep the mentally ill and criminals from getting guns, yes. but we're talking about in this instance, having a registry if a grandfather wants to give a treasured shotgun

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and including his campaign manager jim messina. and jason mattera confronted the obama henchman how he and his old boss attack fox news and rush limbaugh. >> and jason mattera, wanted to ask you a quick question. do you think it's becoming of the president to be constantlily attacking fox news and rush limbaugh? >> i don't think that's what he's doing. >> no? >> no, don't you read his interviews? he whines about fox news and rush, and don't you think it's childish to be going after a news network and a radio host. >> i'm sorry, this is an event-- >> i don't think that's what he's doing. >> you don't think he's attacking fox news. >> he's answering the question he was asked. >> sean: why is the people's house closed? that's right you have to donate $500,000, pretty unbelievable and he said it with a straight face. that's all the time. a special programming note tomorrow night on "hannity," live studio audience edition, a great show for you tomorrow might. thanks for being with us. greta is next, we'll see you tomorrow. >> greta: ton

bush in 2005 went off, formed his own for-profit consultant i si, which is what jim messina, obama's campaign manager is doing, and worked at the same time for this newly-revamped bush campaign organization that had become, basically, a lobbying campaign solely for the president's agenda. it is, the appearance of impropriety, a conflict of interest, of access selling, you couldn't have a tom wolfe novel couldn't invent a sort of more perfect hat trick of conflict of interest and unseemliness, and i congratulate "the new york times" and washington post and common cause for getting upset about it, but you really don't hear anything from rank and file democrats or from democrats on capitol hill. jon: right. >> they don't really seem to care. jon: well, as chris stirewalt points out in his column today on foxnews.com, it is also all perfectly legal just as it would have been for obama's predecessor. it's not that he's exploiting some new legal loophole that allows him to have a permanent campaign, still it's just that his predecessors were either not so creative or so brazen as to try it

here are two memos out from the organizing for action from jim messina and from john carson questioningations of the republicans in congress. they want to do what they do on the super, on the sequester because they want to protect tax breaks for people who got corporate jets. no, no. that is not civil and not true. bill: she just said he always has been respectful of views of republicans, always. fair share, billionaires, millionaires. you're paying less than your secretary. paul ryan, your ideas are all wrong. >> no, no, look. there's a difference. fine for a president to say i disagree with their policies the thing this man does he questions their motivations. he constructs straw arguments, straw arguments what he claims they're for and then demolishes them. this man has been incredibly disrespectful of the process. bill: there was outreach last week, karl. can republicans trust the president? >> at the same time they're having outreach, sending out, please call your republican member of congress because he wants to throw people, wants to throw seniors off their health care and want t

jim messina now runs the new ofa and has an op-ed up on cnn.com today laying out the group's achievementspondenting to recent reports that big donations would buy access to the president, saying that while it can't and won't guarantee access to any government official, there may be occasions when they are included in and it will -- legislative updates, but that can't and should not be seen as opportunities to lobby. we're back after the break. the issues of the day. >> do you think that there is any chance we'll see this president even say the words "carbon tax"? >> with an open mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> ...and a distinctly satirical point of view. >> but you mentioned "great leadership" so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter). >> watch the show. >> only on current tv. they think this world isn't big enough for the both of them. but we assure you - it is. bites. little greatness. [♪ theme music ♪] >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's the "stephanie miller show"! ♪ i'm walking on sunshine woe ho ♪ ♪ i'm walking on sunshine woe,

president obama's 2012 campaign manager, jim messina, today.sten. >> the problem is it misses the entire point. they didn't lose 71% of the latino vote because of tactics. they didn't lose over 60% of the youth vote and women because of tactics or outreach or data. they lost it because they're wrong on the issues and their party has moved so far to the right, they no longer speak not majority of americans. >> how accurate is that? >> it's very accurate. people judge you on actions and deeds. your words may be one thing, but your actions and your deeds speak clearly on what you're going to do. let's take mitt romney. a situation where he said he's for all people and gets behind closed doors is and says 47% of americans don't matter. people judge you not by what you say, but your actions and deeds. the republican party needs to do less talking and more of the actions and deeds to show minority and women that they're for them. it's a very clear problem for the republican party. >> matt, how is that report perceived when republican circles? specifi

before we go to the calls, talk about the leadership of america, the current board chairman is jim messina who had a role in the president's campaign and you see other directions as well. does that present a problem? >> it doesn't mean a lot of problems. jim is a good guy but don't think he gets it in terms of appealing to average, ordinary skens -- citizens. i said one time they should have named this organizing for a perpetual campaign. and i don't think they were going to give the a ratous to -- host: organizing for america. guest: i think they wanted to tweet it but tweeted it in terms of being a super, super p.a.c. as opposed to an organization truly grassroots, truly smart donor and focused on reform to protect democracy and not just another, quote, political arm of the white house. host: we have calls lined up for you. green bell, maryland. ed is up first. hello? we have missed a point. our previous election was funded by the republican party by millionaires and billionaires. the president's message was clear we don't want to drop out the load on the most vulnerable in this country.

the republican party and josh poise out jim messina has a lot.publicans don't understand what goes on in the republicans party as democrats don't understand what is going on in the democratic party, you've seen this in the past in the republican party where you've gotten to the point the party is having a fundamental fissure. you have shirts and skins and a big chunk of the republican electorate for whom candidates continue to oppose gay marriage will continue to be popular but i think some other chunk of the party that will get on this train and what we don't know is in the -- over the course of these next three years, which of those parts of the party emerges as being dominant because i think there will be a handful of republican nominee and republican candidates in 2016 who decide the only way to go is we have to modernize this party and one of the ways to do it. >> what i find fascinating is the speed of shift in social attitudes and the core of the republican party's political problem now is how quickly they are essentially spinning out from

its board chairman is jim messina, who had a role in the campaign. you see other connections as well. is that a problem for you? guest: it is not too much of a problem. ok guy.n ok job -- they should have named this organizing for a perpetual campaign. i do not think they wanted to give this apparatus to the democratic party because it -- led it after the 2000 2080 election. as a superpacit rather than tweeting it as an organization focus on reform and to protect democracy rather than a political arm of the white house. is up first on our democratic line. caller: we have missed the point. the previous election was funded by the republican party by millionaires and billionaires. i want to drop this load on the most vulnerable. what is happening is that we had an election. what is going on continuously? you are driving the same message over and over again that the president is driving and asking people to give stuff. i am a pc scientists. i am not asking the president ir the would enjoy a ph.d. -- am a ph.d. scientists. . i am not asking the president

jim messina. they will all be speaking to this group. as you mentioned democrats in the house you are conservative districts, a little worried about this agenda with immigration reform, gun control, president's statements about gay marriage. if democrats are going to take back the house, they are going to need to flip a number of districts where mitt romney won and that is hard with this agenda. so democrats taking the bright side are saying, well, this has to distance ourselves from the president and some of these districts, that could actually be helpful. >> these are swing districts. you quote jim graves who almost beat michelle backman. another guys in the news the last week or so, jeb bush on set with us on "morning joe" last week and making the rounds on the sunday talk shows to promote his book. he claimed one thing many see as the biggest obstacle running for president his brother's legacy is not an obstacle at all. listen. >> i don't think there is any bush baggage at all. i love my brother. i'm proud of his accomplishments. i l

machine alive with a nonprofit group, organizing for action, headed by former campaign manager jim messinarumpeted as a grassroots effort, the money behind it could be anything but. adding fuel to the fire, report that is organizationer organizers are considering giving quarterly meetings with president obama, a practice candidate obama once criticized. >> even if they're not asking for a quid pro quo, it means the people who ayou are meeting wit are not struggling. >> reporter: insisting they will not have influence, writing these are not opportunities to lobby. they are briefing on the position the president has taken and the status of seeing them through. but government watchdogs are skeptical. >> it is a vehicle that will allow big donors to buy corrupting influence with the administration. president obama ought to shut down this organization promptly. >> the other issue here, lester, that watchdog groups say, he's exasperating an already bad system and an ends justifies the means is a bad way to go. >> take care of that cold, my friend. >> yes, sir. >>> pop star justin bieber is recov

its board chairman is jim messina, who had a role in the campaign. you see other connections as well. is that a problem for you? guest: it is not too much of a problem. jim is an ok job -- ok guy. they should have named this organizing for a perpetual campaign. i do not think they wanted to give this apparatus to the democratic party because it bungled it after the 2008 election. they tweeted it as a superpac rather than tweeting it as an organization focus on reform and to protect democracy rather than a political arm of the white house. host: ed is up first on our democratic line. caller: we have missed the point. the previous election was funded by the republican party by millionaires and billionaires. i want to drop this load on the most vulnerable. what is happening is that we had an election. what is going on continuously? you are driving the same message over and over again that the president is driving and asking people to give stuff. i am a pc scientists. i am not asking the president for the would enjoy a ph.d. -- i am a ph.d. scientist. i a