and i think they might sure enough, if i was working with jim messina, i probably would have told him not to do it, but i think jim's right. i think he lost the battle, but may win the war. >> jim, why do you think or do you think that a lot of democrats, maybe too many democrats seemingly forgot the importance of the issue of crime/immigration and have failed, somewhat, to address one of the pure family issues in this country, the education of children who have missed so much in the last two to three years because of the pandemic. >> because we spend too much time worrying about what our base says and not enough time worrying about what we should actually say to these swing voters. we have to have a plan. we have to actually address these issues. crime is a great example. democrats may lose the oregon governor's race, which if they do that will be a wake-up call on these issues. democrats have to lean right into it and say, look, i'm absolutely against defund the police. i understand in these communities of color, in these communities of economic social justice that we need police to

jim messina and rich lowery. welcome back to both of you. you and actually play a clip of a panel that was put together for morning joe here. democratic voters in philadelphia, obviously part of pennsylvania, one of the key senate races. here's a panel with democratic voters in philadelphia asking about the presence of crime in the city and its impact in their lives. take a listen to this. >> have you seen a rise specifically in our neighborhoods? >> there's arise everywhere. >> or around the city. >> carjackings crazy, robberies, it just does not make any sense. >> it seemed to be more than ever. >> it's not just the city, it's even into the suburbs, but it's obviously more heavily concentrated in the urban areas. but absolutely, we don't even know going home today, how we're going to feel, whether you're driving or public transportation, what will happen. >> jim, when you see a panel like the, and you see a number like we showed you in pew, where republicans had the advantage, what can and what should democrats be saying and doing in the ne

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joining me now is dasha burns in harrisburg where the debate was held, jonathan tamari, jim messina, former white house deputy chief of staff and campaign manager for obama's 2012 re-election campaign, and doug heye, former communications director for the republican national committee. dasha, you've been covering the campaign so closely. you've had key interviews with both candidates. fetterman's performance being scrutinized but so is the answer that dr. oz gave on abortion. and the format, the 15 seconds for rebuttals, for instance, format that some would say fetterman's campaign should never have agreed to. what does all this mean, though, for the race? what are voters saying to you? i know what they're saying here in pittsburgh. >> reporter: yeah, andrea, there is a lot to digest from last night both in terms of circumstance and substance. look, ahead of this debate, the fetterman campaign tried to manage expectations, acknowledging that this isn't his format, that he is still struggling with some of the lingers aftereffects of the stroke and the closed captioning that's necessar

this is more than an anomaly given what is going on with republicans, not everywhere but jim messina,eatty chief of staff, for resident obama's 2012 reelection effort. his skills shepherding healthcare into law. he was kind enough to join us now. welcome. >> thanks for having me. neil: i mentioned the exception of this race in maryland, not across the board but it is a tough year for democrats, might be missing something in the polls, apart from the ones there, don't look good politically. do you agree with recent sentiment that they could lose the house in the senate? >> history is important. or years, since world war ii, three senate seat and 28 house seats. americans like divided government, the president's party typically gets thereir bt kicked, 26 of the most important races, that's a pretty tall order. neil: the map favors them in the senate. is there a breakdown? >> i don't think yet. if you look at the early numbers, you talked about this. i hate polling, polling is garbage and wrong every two years. i look at the real numbers. 12 million americans have voted. looking where th

back with us now, anna navarro jim messina and scott jennings. you know, we look at this and the idea of the coveted demographics and who is the undecided voters, the independent voters, republicans, democrats, all across the spectrum. there is an emphasis in particular on latino voters. in florida, per se, where they have a coalition in terms of rural voters and latino voters in particular, in a state where everybody is watching to see where things will go, now in 2024. what is your take in terms of what this last 13 day -- these last 13 days what is the focus? >> 13 days is not going to make much of a difference with latino voters are any particular group. that is one of the problems. you can't just remember a particular group 13 days away or 13 weeks away. you need to remember them the whole four years. that is a constant complaint. latino voters, i think, there's so many different things going on with them. first of all, i need to tell you, republicans in florida, republicans nationally, have lashes are focused on latinos in miami day county