jim oberstar, long time pro-life, has indicated that he will. one point on the insurance companies. >> they did. >> after scott brown's victory, no question about it, in massachusetts, and the loss of 60 democratic votes in the senate, 39% rate increases across the country, at all of a sudden, the insurance companies became the perfect villain and foil. if rates are going up now, what will they go up? it became not a question of whether the bill is perfect. the status quo, which was unacceptable, versus change. >> that is a lot of drama, but there is also the unbelievably missed opportunity. just look at the changes in the bill. in the senate bill originally, it was attacking one of the great inefficiencies in the system. the tax exemption that people have for employer provided insurance. it is a relic of the second world war, it makes no sense, a is a tremendous incentive to overspending. -- it gives a tremendous incentive to overspending. the senate had a 40% tax on the cadillac plant. the unions come in and the man to cut out and they get it. there is a huge uproar over favoritis

transportation and infrastructure committee, in the 110th congress, our chairman, the ledge dare jim oberstar, always reminded us that our global competitor -- the ledge dare -- the ledge dare jim observer -- the legendary jim oberstar reminded us, you have to look at global competitor. you look at china which is past -- which has passed the united states in number of automobiles, if we are competing with these people in a global market, dr. kagen, we have to similar types of commitments so our infrastructure system can make us competitive. i know from visiting your district in northeast wisconsin, it's a very spread out and remote area, in some parts of your district, yet the stilts you represent in those areas depend just as much on an infrastructure system as the people here in our nation's capitol. mr. kagen: i'll summarize what everybody here understands, we're $1.1 to $1.2 billion behind in investment in infrastructure. what good would it be if we generate several million job, even 10 million job, when we manufacturer things and we don't have -- we manufacture things and don't have the