jim owens making very important comments about 2012, four years away. here's the important thing. they're talking about a netable upswing, not just in the top line but potentially doubling their top line but notable increases in the bottom line. they're talking about earnings of $8 to $10 four years from now. why is that significant? we're talking about a consensus estimate of $1.43 this year. to $8 to $10 is a significant jump. small increases in the top line, big increases in the bottom line is the power of cost cutting. trader talk.cnbc.com. let's talk to all my friends, brian shactman standing by at nasdaq. >> that everythinks you very mu. we've been in negative territory for most of the day. we are still just a point above that 2,000 mark. i do want to point out to people, the internals there are slightly more advancers to decliners. quick peek what's working. it's steadily been bleeding but dell still in positive territory, yahoo! up 1.1%. research in motion, most of these names off the highs but up 2%. starbucks 52-week highs. they're streamlining everything to cut costs, e

ceo jim owens, big investor analyst meeting here today. they were talking about earnings in four years, six times higher than this year. top line growth only two times higher and michelle, there is the power of cost cutting as you get small increases in the top line, you get dramatically bigger increases in the bottom line. caterpillar had a great day. >> thank you, bob. speaking of earnings, numbers outs from craft. mastness toe has the latest. >> on the continuing operations basis, kraft the foodmaker 56 cents a share. the revenue is down 6% to $10.2 billion. looks to be a little bit soft. get this, an 8% negative hit from foreign exchange from the currency. we've talked about the effect here. another 7% hit on revenues from divestitures. the stock inching higher in the after market. little change in the regular session. it is positive on the year to date basis and a $40 billion market cap also worth noting here today is their full-year forecast. the company acknowledging what the street already believes. they raised their full-year targ

jim owens, the ceo, he exuded confidence today on that call, and the reason why goes back to yesterday's ism number and the numbers out of china the night number. the ism number dropped back in december at 32.9. it is approaching 50 again. and on that move from the trough to 50, 50 being the contraction level, that's where the names like caterpillar, like joy global, bucyrus, they are going to do well and they are. >> mutual funds are still bullish on cat, just by what pete said. they're looking forward. if you look at now, everything's overvalued, right? so they're looking out, looking at forecast, and still think it's a guy. >> say you're on the sidelines and you watch cat move 6% on a session like today. at whaint do you say it's time to commit fresh capital here? >> you probably use the options, because right now, you'd be chasing like everybody else in the world. but if you're using the options, you can limit your exposure, you can put on call spreads. people that don't understand it, look into it educate yourself. that's why we're trading nearly 15 million contracts a day. that num

owens does in buffalo. good players usually help your football team. >> jim: third and four on the mass, too low. for sam aiken. >> phil: football just not come out of kevin o'connell's hand very well. nose got down a couple of times, it's wet. the interception takes away some of your confidence, neighborhood let it go. >> jim: anthony alridge is back to receive the punt. of chris hanson. alridge let's it bounce at the four it's down to the two. he's got a good presence on the special teams. if you're still one of the guys who's going over and over... going urgently... waking up to go... it's time to do what lots of guys everywhere have already done-- go see your doctor, because those could be urinary symptoms due to bph, an enlarged prostate. and for many men, prescription flomax reduces their urinary symptoms due to bph in one week. one week. only your doctor can tell if you have bph, not a more serious condition like prostate cancer. avoid driving or hazardous tasks for 12 hours after your first dose or increase in dose, as a sudden drop in blood pressure may occur, rarely resulting in faintin

owens does in buffalo. good players usually help your football team. >> jim: third and four on the mass, too low. for sam aiken. >> phil: football just not come out of kevin o'connell's hand very well. nose got down a couple of times, it's wet. the interception takes away some of your confidence, neighborhood let it go. >> jim: anthony alridge is back to receive the punt. of chris hanson. alridge let's it bounce at the four it's down to the two. he's got a good presence on the special teams. if you're still one of the guys who's going over and over... going urgently... waking up to go... it's time to do what lots of guys everywhere have already done-- go see your doctor, because those could be urinary symptoms due to bph, an enlarged prostate. and for many men, prescription flomax reduces their urinary symptoms due to bph in one week. one week. only your doctor can tell if you have bph, not a more serious condition like prostate cancer. avoid driving or hazardous tasks for 12 hours after your first dose or increase in dose, as a sudden drop in blood pressure may occur, rarely resulting in faintin

jim. >> robert, what's up? >> caller: i've got a question about owens corning on how they would benefit from the stimulus packaget only from home ins populati insulation, but industrial insulation. could they benefit quite a bit? >> i think so. michaelthalman, who's been on our show. he was recently on the wonderful and fabulous ones, "street signs" with erin. he has got a terrific situation going in terms of conservation, okay? in terms of -- you know, because of insulation. but he also said that housing starts not being up is going to hurt the numbers. i think the good is overwhelming the bad. by the way, when speaking of owens, owens illinois is a company that makes glass, also very environmentally friendly and is a huge beneficiary of the decline in natural gas. i point it out because why don't i mention owen wilson? a bunch of owens sitting around talking. nick in texas, nick. >> caller: yes, sir. >> excuse me? >> caller: i said a big boo-yah from dallas here. >> oh, boo-yah right back at you! >> caller: all right. my question is, with kids coming back into school and with the market kind of sliding towards

owens, 9news now and wusa9.com. >> thanks dave. mike williams, the defensive lineman was one of eight players that had to be treated for dehydration today. you can hear jim zorn's reaction and full post practice report, plus why carlos rogers was sitting out. that's all at wusa9.com. >>> after 12 years in the nfl, derek called it quits. after three weeks of retirement, the ravens receiver said he had enough of that, too. which is why taking a page out of the brett favre play book, he is leaving retirement behind. he called it quits after the death of steve mcnair, but he was having second thoughts. after taking a physical test today, he should be out on the field for the ravens sunday practice. >>> a big training camp no-no committed by the vikings today. quarterback jackson suffered a strained acl when a teammate rolled over his leg. with him on the roster, go ahead and queue up the michael vick rumors. >>> the nationals are in pittsburgh trying to avoid their fourth straight loss today and call in familiar company as they readjust their lineup after friday's trade deadline. with adam dunn moving to first, he was called from aaa for hitting .288 there.