on the markets, jim paulson, chief investment strategist at wells capital management. i don't know. i was not channelling you, jim, or just you, but you remember i was nodding when you were talking a week and a half ago about how almost everything positive of which there are many things, all the positives were pretty well nope known by the m, which is different than it's been for the last two or three years. the market likes to go up when the negatives are well known and takes a breather when it's down. we are down 4 or 5% since you were on. >> yeah, i think, you know, joe, it's significant. we had essentially three, you know, at least minor corrections now since june. this is the third one. and we're sitting here this morning about where we were at the end of june, and so it -- we are doing -- starting the process of refreshing this bull market, if you will, by basically going nowhere in the last six months and getting some minor gut checks along the way. that's the type of thing that refreshes some of the challengesment one is being too optimistic of sentiment. another one being, y