. >> jim reed and okay jim reed. done in 2003 >> yes. >> how do you know it was done in 2003. >> i'm assuming that's when the first violation was written from the papers i got from the building inspectors my so you got the first violation in 2003. >> no supposedly there was a violation posted or mailed my the other thing, too anything that was posted at the house was immediately ripped down. the person that was doing this was totally defying the city. >> and where you were at the time. >> i was out of time in sacramento and are you building in skoovment. >> no, no i go visit any grandkids. >> you rented out your whole house to mr. reid. >> no, no i hadn't represented to mr. reid i knew him before. >> he was - >> you know from my attorney regardless of whether he was paying rent he still had tenants rights and on top of. >> are you knowledge there with him. >> on certainty occasions there was one bedroom i had retrieved stayed there. >> that's all right. i have nothing further. >> thank you. we'll hear from mr. duffey