one of the comment what jim rokakis said about demolition.demolition is another factor we see on the ground that deteriorates these neighborhoods but having said that demolition alone is not going to do it. you have to demolish and we have. properties that need to be demolished and properties that need rehab. to demolish a property and you don't we have properties that can be put in the affordable housing and being occupied you will not accomplishing think so demolition that has to be done and at the same time focus on the rehab of these properties. thank you. >> before we pass the baton it again as quickly as does anybody have a question specifically about these vacant and abandoned properties? >> greg fischer and i would just ask you to think about one other thing and that is the maintenance of the properties while they are in this limbo land. you were living next to -- door to them in the weeds are rowing six feet tall. we as government can't even go on the land sometimes to take care of the so this is an issue that needs to be addressed a

as we are, we are going to get robert klein and jim rokakis and dave stevens if you gentlemen would move forward. we will set up for our next portion of our presentation. what i would like is the gentleman who are stepping up to the table to suggest to all of you, we have had over 1000 mayors sign onto the climate protection agreement. it seems that it's time we had to discuss a little bit moving forward about sustainable cities and communities and the work that needs to be done in some of those areas. there are 40 cities around this country that have applied for and received regional sustainability planning grants so there is a lot of work going on and i would hope that staff would follow-up with mayors from across the country and let's share best practices, some of the things that we are doing in our cities locally to create a green economy and to transition into the 21st century in what jobs look like that makes our city sustainable. so i just would like to throw that out to all of you and i'm hopeful that staff is going to follow up so by june we have to have some good ideas to share

having said that, i would like to now move to jim klein and mr. rokakisif you remember the baltimore meeting in june, we indicated we would work on a model piece of legislation to address how we move to abandon property through the system quicker to less than a tremendous negative impact of the properties in the neighborhoods around the country. gentlemen? in very short order. >> 33 years of public life city and county officials than nature conservation organization to adopt the urban mission initially designed to stand up when they -- land banks in ohio and michigan and our cause i public entities to take and the distressed tax foreclosed properties but we have 13 in place in june in ohio. wherever we go we set these up in every urban county we're overwhelmed by the problem of they can properties and possibly the greatest public servant i have known, as pointed out, we know what they do. they destroy a billion and crime and a magnet san take away from many people the single most valuable asset, their homes. there more vacant properties in ohio and michig