thanks very much jim sciuto. let's talk about this for the former undersecretary of defense defense. thanks for joining us. what do you make of the evan perez report that authorities are now deeply concerned looking ahead to the july 4th that u.s. intelligence law enforcement authorities may have lost track here in the united states of some alleged isis sympathizers. >> well we've had a number arrested in the past month, and several over the past year isil has had a lot of success at radicalization. there could be more out there, and i think there's some reasons to be concerned over what is the normal warning, in this case it may not be as normal isil has issued a call of arms for ramadan, we're right in the middle of that for success and radicalization and the symbolism attracted with the national holiday. >> the isis leader that if you die in a suicide attack during the holy month of ramadan, the rewards in heaven will be much greater. is that right? >> it that's correct. their ability to reach out to those who