most egregious revelations have come out this would really outraged lawmakers we heard from jim sensenbrenner wrote the paychecks. this is not any idea how to. so she's basically doing yes a huge favor by taking his most controversial program and legal assistance and that's correct and is another program that's being legalized in this tale which has not got as much attention as it is a very shy which is the back door search is on international communications that are acquired under the section seventeen of the fights and many. this is a doctor a loophole that ron wyden and warned about the fact the answer what is happening is that the nsa is allowed under the fine sentiments asked to go collapse huge amounts of communications of people were suspected to be foreigners overseas without any individual court because they are foreigners overseas. what ends up happening is the nse scoops up a lot of communications between people overseas and americans and also ends up scooping a lot of purely domestic communications of americans into that style as well these are all communications americans' commun

operating in a way that's consistent with americans liberty if what you make of lawmakers like jim sensenbrenner saying hey when i wrote the patriot act i never anticipated that section two fifteen would be interpreted the way that it was interpreted is that is that a legitimate claim or should they share the blame for all passing the patriot act back in two thousand and one and not be surprised that the n.s.a. has done with the what they did with it well i would say a little of both i think that a lot of people were concerned that these powers that were granted under the patriot act went too far and could be abused and could be pushed at the boundaries to allow something like bulk collection that said i don't believe that at the time that the bulk collection section to fifteen of the patriot act was passed anyone who voted for it imagined that it would be used to collect all americans telephone records that simply does not something you could get from reading the text of the bill one of the the spy chief general alexander d.n.i. clapper they keep repeating this long to justify the bulk collecti

jim sensenbrenner turned up a real story about whether there's any hope in saveing -- jim sensenbrenner may be the best hope that there is for any republican leadership on reinstating the bones of the voting rights act, after the supreme court tore it down this summer. also, jim sensenbrenner's great grandfather invented kotex. behind all these members of congress, behind more of them that you would think, that's kind of the story of congress, democratic, republican, senate and house, members of congress you like, ones you don't like, they're all heirs to some fortune or married to the heir to some fortune. while the average american is not getting richer, the average member of congress really is getting richer, and that's happening faster and faster all the time right now. and whether or not it is related, right now the average american's view of the average member of congress is the worst it has ever been in the history of asking people that question. the gallup organization for those released with polling data on how congress is doing in terms or handling it's job, the number of amer

but the usa freedom act by senator leahy and congressman jim sensenbrenner who wrote the patriot act has some people pleasantly surprised by how strong it is what do you make of it and what are the chances that it is the one that's chose out of these two paths. well i think that is certainly a step in the right direction to bar this kind of bulk collection of innocent americans communications their communications records is imperative to restoring our core privacy rights and in fact our core rights against the government abuse of this power potential abuse by this administration or future administration i'm pleasantly surprised to see that congressman sensenbrenner on that bill he was an indefatigable fan and cheerleader for the bush administration when president bush was office we couldn't get a single amendment through the house judiciary committee when he was at the helm but i'm glad to see he seen the light and recognizes how how dangerous these powers are and how far they go how far they transcend what most americans believe reasonably to be their fundamental point right even th

section two fifteen of the patriot act but one of the authors of the patriot act republican jim sensenbrenner disagrees he responded to the disclosure saying there is no legitimate explanation for tracking the numbers locations times and duration of the calls of every american the collection and retention of all telephone records coming in and out of the united states is excessive and does not fall within the guidelines of section two fifteen. one week after this first disclosure about bulk telephone metadata collection the a.c.l.u. filed a lawsuit against the director of national intelligence james clapper calling for an end to this domestic spying as it by lates numerous constitutional rights again that lawsuit was filed one week after the first edward snowden disclosure back in june and tomorrow on friday that suit will receive its stay in court when government lawyers will have to square off with the a.c.l.u. in a federal courtroom in new york city and for the first time the usa will have to defend in public court the n.s.a.'s telephone metadata spying program and what comes out of that h

about privacy and national security this would be through the legislation he's sponsoring with jim sensenbrenner what's the likelihood we'll see this happening considering the increasing scrutiny of n.s.a. policies i think there's no question that legislation is going to get attention but if you look at it one of the big things about it is i think there's sixteen senators who have cosigned that all of them are democrats and there are sixty in the house and i think what you're going to see is not bipartisan legislation moving forward to going to see a very bipartisan or just pro democrat and again it's going to run into all those roadblocks that we've seen with every house everything else that's going on there on the hill right now which is the dems fighting the r.'s and it's going to continue and i think ultimately it will raise awareness but then end up dying out sure appreciate you coming and breaking that down for us mancini founder of s.s.p. bloom thanks thanks. and the german news magazine der spiegel has published an open letter it says was written by former government contractor edward sn

but before we turn to the panel, we're truly honored to have with us representative jim sensenbrenner's been one of the most vocal and important voices in the united states house of representatives with regard to the foreign intelligence surveillance act and current proposals for its reform. congressman sensenbrenner represents the fifth congressional district of wisconsin which includes milwaukee, dodge and all of washington and jefferson counties. he was born in chicago and later moved to wisconsin with his family. he graduated from the pill waukee country day school and did his undergraduate work at stanford where he majored in political science. he then earned his law degree at the university of wisconsin, madison, 1968. after serving ten years in the wisconsin state legislature, he ran for a united states house seat and was elected november, 1978. and he's been reelected since then. his current committee assignments include the service on the committee on science and technology, the committee on -- and the committee on the judiciary. he's chair of the crime, terrorism, homeland s

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senate judiciary chairman pat leahy co-authored freedom act with republican congressman jim sensenbrennerthanks so much for being with me this afternoon, senator. >> glad to be with you. >> you were one of the leading authors of the patriot act in 2011 now you're proposing to ban nsa from collecting bulk data among other things. can you pinpoint the moment you changed your mind about this government surveillance programs and decided these programs needed to be curbed? >> i never really changed my mind. i thought in the patriot act i pushed to make it a lot tighter than it was. i joined with conservative leader of the house dick armey to put sunset provisions in. that's one of the reasons we now have this debate because it forced the congress to review it periodically. but we've reached a point where this seemed to be if we could do it, we should do it. no matter what it does to your privacy, no matter what it does to your sense as an person if you're left alone. the nsa says we can collect every one of your phone calls and virtually everything else, we have to do it in case someday you ne

this begins with remarks from jim sensenbrenner. he is one of the authors of the 2001 patriot act. he is followed by a panel discussion beard this is hosted by the georgetown law center. it is about 2.5 hours. >> it is my pleasure to welcome you to georgetown university law center. today marks the second discussion of the law schools past himt series on it a present, and future of intelligence gathering in the united states. [feedback] october we kept them on church committee hearings and look for the origins of the foreign intelligence. today we're going to be focused on current intelligent gathering practices. we will consider them currently before congress that would reform before the surveillance court. purpose is to move the and thinkon forward about what principles should guide us to the future. criticalw at a juncture. this promises tremendous benefits. it makes it more if it shouldn't. it creates the opportunity for growth and new discoveries. societies and nations. opportunity for organized crime. how does this reap the benefits and remain true to our founding principles?

speakers including jim sensenbrenner review the patriot act. this is two and a half hours.e conversations] >> good morning. it's my pleasure to welcome you to georgetown university law center. today marks the second discussion of the law schools three-part series on the past, present and future of surveillance and foreign intelligence gathering in the united states. in october we can being former members of key staffers from the church committee hearings and looked at the origins of the it surveillance intelligence act. today we are focusing on current bills currently before congress that would reform the foreign intelligence surveillance court and alterations for the foreign intelligence surveillance act as well as cases currently working their way through the courts. our purpose and meaning the program today's move the conversation forward and to think about what framework and principles should guide us as we look to the future. we are now as all of us recognize attic critical juncture. technology is rapidly evolving and it comes as tremendous benefits that makes us more

one from senator patrick leahy, chairman of the judiciary committee, and jim sensenbrenner, one of theo- authors of the original patriot act, and one from chairman diana feinstein, the intelligence committee head. whatehi-sensenbrenner bill in the bulk -- the leahy- sensenbrenner bill would end the bulk collection. find signs codifies that w hile placing some researches on it. host: why target the specific activity? leahy and sensenbrenner and critics say the program goes too far and it does violate americans privacy. they say it is not actually in counterterrorism and it is just collecting the phone data of millions and millions of americans. feinstein disagrees. she says that this is a key counterterrorism program and it is legal as well. that is the other disagreement over the legality of it. one is in the judiciary committee, leahy's bill, the other in the intelligence committee. ecb divide their. the -- youd divide see the divide there. bill,t of leahy's conservative and libertarian- leaning conservatives like rand paul, find sign -- feinstein's bill is supported by chambliss, vic

in the house representative jim sensenbrenner, former chairman of the judiciary committee. republican. myself democrat. and so we have democrats and republicans on this issue. there are a lot of things that we are not necessarily agreeing upon right now in congress. there is a tremendous amount of disagreement. enough that actually shut down the government. but on this issue, there appear to be the amergens of tremmed -- amergens of tremendous agreement, that makes all of us optimistic that something significant and even more significant can be done. so i want to highlight some of the organizations and groups who have been actively engaged in seriously involved, groups like the leadership conference for civil and human rights. groups like the justice center from the council of state governments. groups who have worked to demonstrate that people can be helped. what is it that individuals need actually when they are released from jail or prison? well, they certainly need more than $20 and a bus ticket. many of them have no place at all to go. but if they can find somebody wai